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Transcript from the digital recording (total 2 hrs 28 min 13 sec) of Jamie Skeeters and Deepak Kalpoe interview.

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                            (Jamie Skeeters is seen adjusting the camera and positioning it so that it is pointed at the location
                              where Deepak will eventually be seated.  We can see a ceiling fan whirring constantly)

Jamie Skeeters:  (Speaking to an unidentified  person in the room.) 
                            He’s over there trying to find a girl to fuck.  It’s none of your business what 
                            he’s doing . 

                            (Many unintelligible sounds and words here.  Seems to be when Deepak enters.
                             Some unintelligible conversation from the door over to where they finally sit down.)

                             So, where’s my damn (unintelligible)?  Here it is.  It’s a wonder I couldn’t see it.  I’ll tell you what,
                             you want the comfy one or you want this one? 

Deepak Kalpoe:    Um, this one.
                            ( Sits in chair in front of camera. We only see the side of Deepaks head above
                             ear level)

Jamie Skeeters:    Ok.  Um. (Skeeters is out of camera view)

Deepak Kalpoe:    (unintelligible)

Jamie Skeeters:    I know.  I appreciate what she did.  I don’t think you would have trusted me if, if uh, 
                              if it hadn’t been for Angelina. 

Deepak Kalpoe:    Yeah

Jamie Skeeters:    And there’s things that I wanted to say that I’m not going to say with uh with uh

Deepak Kalpoe:    Her present.

Jamie Skeeters:  With her  present.  No. (whispers) Whooh, it’s hot. (then in normal voice) Anyhow, 
                              Uh... I’d like to do the poly, but let me  be right up front with you. Right up..  How 
                              do you... How do you put your... How do you go by what name?

Deepak Kalpoe:    Deepak

Jamie Skeeters:    Teepak?  T – Pak. 

Deepak Kalpoe:     No, D double e, p  a  k, Deepak

Jamie Skeeters:     Oh, D.

Deepak Kalpoe:     Deepak, like Deepak Chopra

Jamie Skeeters:     Oh, ok. Um, if you did it, don’t take the poly for me or anyone else cause you won’t
                               pass it.  If you did it... do not take a poly. I’m telling you that right up front.  Cause you
                               won’t pass. It’s, it’s too good.  And you saw what was going on with that guy.  If you
                               did not do it, you’re   foolish.  I don’t want to use the word stupid, but I’ll, I’m the only 
                               one stupid, but you’re foolish on not having every bit of evidence to help you over 
                               here on this island cause this island is unbelievably corrupt.  If they want to use you
                               for a sacrificial lamb,  you’re gone.  You know that and I know that.  I don’t know how
                               they work over here  but I’m not to proud of the way they are.  So, and the question 
                               I’ll ask you is if you intentionally killed her? 

Deepak Kalpoe:     No. 

Jamie Skeeters:     I know

Deepak Kalpoe:     That not suff...(unintellligible)

Jamie Skeeters:     Ok.  But I would ask you. Now if you were there when something happened to
                               her and it wasn’t intentional, I can prove that it was not intentional.  You, your brother or 
                               even, uh.. Yorthan...Yourthan.

Deepak Kalpoe:     Joran.

Jamie Skeeters:     Ok.  Pardon my pronunciation, I’m just a California boy.  Uh, if it was an accident...
                              if it was an accident, I can help all of you.  Including the father if I have to.  The father is
                              protecting the boy like any father would do.  Just like you and I would do for our kids. 
                              And that would be nothing but an ass chewing out.  And if you guys were partying and
                              gangbanging and, and, even if somebody had given her uh... a date drug, it doesn’t matter. 
                              She participated in it.  And if she did give her a date drug, they can’t prove it.  But I’m
                              not gonna ask you.  And uh that,  but if that happened, that’s not murder.  She,  nobody, 
                              you didn’t.   Nobody forced her to drink that night. 

Deepak Kalpoe:     No.

                              Deepak shakes head, "no." (left to right) 

Jamie Skeeters:     Nobody told her that you can't fuck her. You know?  I mean...
                              and I'm sure she had sex with all of you.  And... 

                              uhoop! (high pitched shriek) 

Deepak Kalpoe:     No. She didn't.

                              Deepak shakes his head, "no" (left to right) 

Jamie Skeeters:     Ok, well.  I mean... good.  If she did (?missed sound from crosstalk?) fine. 

Deepak Kalpoe:    You'd be surprised how simple it was that night. 

Jamie Skeeters:     Really? Well... what I'm sayin' is then, if you're involved... in a... in a nasty malicious
                               way, don't take the poly.  If you're not, you're foolish not to take the polygraph, 'cause 
                               it can help. It can help you big time.  Even though they say “Well, we can’t use it”. 
                               No, but you can give us statements or we were told statements and the we can 
                               verify what you said.  And then they’ll put us on the stand... “well how
                               do you know this?”  “Because the man passed a polygraph.”  Whoop.(this whoop is
                               similar to sound made earlier, but not as loud.  It is a unique Skeeters  expression)
                               It’s out. Plus Dr. Phil and the Phil show, he’s gonna blast this thing in front of 
                               where he has 200 million  people, looking at him all over the world.  The pressure will
                               be on these people here, that you’d be too damn hot to touch.  Because they know 
                               who I am.  Well, you can see how bad they want to find me, when you’ve got Greta 
                               and everybody else trying to find me.  They’ll find me.  But they’re, they’ll find me 
                               probably by tomorrow.  Big deal.  I’m ready for 'em.  That’s who I was talking to, 
                               Phil,  and Phil show when you called me.  We’re ready. I don’t want 'em to know I’m 
                               working for Phil.  Cause they’ll try to out scoop him and  that’s not going to help you
                               or the mother, that Beth girl, Beth, is that her name? Beth?

Deepak Kalpoe:     Beth.

Jamie Skeeters:     Yeah.  And it’s not going to help Natalee.  So, you’re not going to get anything out of me. 
                               And I hope you don’t say anything or your attorney doesn’t say anything. And, uh, you know
                               there’s bound to be problems, but it’s a…I can help ya.  And I wanna help ya.  If you’re
                               clean, if you’re telling the truth, I wanna help ya.  If you’re not telling the truth I can’t help ya. 
                               Plain and simple. 

Deepak Kalpoe:     The polygraph, you have to talk that over with my attorney. Um, and he’ll decide. 

Jamie Skeeters:   Your attorney works for you.  You can tell him,  "I’ll do whatever you say."

Deepak Kalpoe:     I know, I know I can fire him also. 

Jamie Skeeters:    Well, yeah, but no, he’s only looking out for your behalf.  You should always listen to 
                              your attorney.  But, you can also let him know…

Deepak Kalpoe:     If he advises me…

Jamie Skeeters:    (continuing to tell Deepak what to say to his attorney)
                              “I really believe in this guy. I want you to  see what he showed me."  Then you make up
                              your own mind.  And tell him that. "And if I pass the poly”…and your attorney knows, 
                              because you tell him things that I’ll never  know.  But, if you pass the poly your attorney
                              will be known that he’s got the biggest most powerful man in show business with an 
                              audience of 200 million all over the world that will back you up... with the polygraph. 
                              That’s how much Phil believes in the polygraph.  He will put you as a victim yourself. 
                              And that goes for your brother too. 

Deepak Kalpoe:     The television viewers can back us up, yeah. They do it right now also. You know, 
                              you have against and people that are for us. 

Jamie Skeeters:     Not for Phil.  Those are news media.  People are gonna say “well I think he’s dirty, I 
                               think this”.  Just like me.  Until I hear differently, I think you guys all had a party and 
                               she overdosed and fell down and hit her head and died or overdosed.  Had a drug 
                               overdose and died.  That’s my own personal opinion.  From what I’ve heard from 
                               the news people.  Phil will talk to you like you and I are talking, mano a mano. 
                               That’s how we’ll be.  I’ve got a film, they’re sending a camera and a film crew tonight,
                               they’ll be here in the morning.  I hear she’s a cute little girl too. But she’s, she’s 
                               going to be doing on the video on everything.  They would like to have a video with
                               you, as well.  It won’t air until... probably like the 12th of next month.  That’s the first 
                               time, because they have to make the movie, cut it chop it, put it in on story.  Phil will
                               be talking to you, then he’ll fly you to California for an interview there.  I mean an interview
                               with the man right in front.  And then they, then they’ll put, usually the shows are about
                               two weeks after we finish doing them.  And uh, he’ll interview your attorney.  Uh, your
                               attorney will get all kinds of notoriety.  I mean…

Deepak Kalpoe:      But the polygraph I can take at anytime.  It’s not, you know, a doubt that I have or you know
                               questions or (unintelligible), but I still don’t see a reason that it will work in court here. 
                               Believe me on that one, because we offered them again and again and again. 

Jamie Skeeters:     Well, the people they have on here. I don’t know if they know how to do polygraph series. 

Deepak Kalpoe:      If you want me to take a polygraph for the show, you know.  I’ll talk it over with my attorney. 
                               I’ll get back to you and (unintelligible)  But it’s not gonna help.

Jamie Skeeters:     But it will buddy.  You... you know this guy that you saw on here today? How would you like
                               to be sittin' in court that, you... you... they pick your butt up this week.... and that dumbass
                               get up there and “I saw this, I saw the green eyes, I saw the pubic, I saw this, and I , and 
                               I saw that man right there burying her with his brother and the judge's...” and you can't say...
                               All you can say is that's not true. And this guy’s got down details, he’s got this, the color
                               of the truck, the color of the eyes.  He’s a good witness, except he’s a damn liar. 

Deepak Kalpoe:  Yeah.

Jamie Skeeters:  You can’t prove he’s a liar. You can now with me, but you wouldn’t be able to prove
                            he’s a liar hadn’t been for me.  It’s just another man’s word against you and you’re not
                            saying...  You’re not saying shit cause it’s a, 

                            (sound of phone ringing, like a cellphone ring) 

                             it’s a…

                            (sound of phone ringing) 

Jamie Skeeters: (on the telephone)  This is Jaime   Ah huh. (unintelligible whisper) Yeah.
                            (listening) 
                            Right. 
                            (listening) 
                            Oooh.... 
                            (listening) 
                            There you go.  And that  will, that'll protect the (unintelligible) and everybody
                             else here too. 
                             (listening) 
                             Ok... 
                            (listening) 
                             Ok.  So, you want me to  just give her your phone number still?  Er..,  you're gonna
                            call her.
                            (listening) 
                            Okay, but what
                            if she finds out who I’m working for?  What do you  want me or you to say?  You want 
                            me just to refer all comments to you? 
                             (listening) 
                            Well, I’m gonna  put you up for that. I’m talking to an individual sitting two feet from 
                            me and I’m not gonna mention a name right now but I would like for him.  No no no no…
                            I would like for him to know who he’s going to be talking to on the show.  The individual 
                            has said if Phil wants a polygraph... and it’s okay with his attorney, he’ll give you one 
                            for the show.  I’m trying to tell him how we’ll help him with his trial.  Let me ask him if 
                            he’ll say hello to you. 

 Jamie Skeeters:  (now speaking to Deepak) 
                             This is Hollywood. 
                             You don’t have to mention your name.  This is,  this is... I want you to know who Julie
                              is though...  If they throw me off the island this is who you’ll be talking to. Ok?  She’s
                              one you can trust. 
                             (speaking to Julie) 
                             Say, "hello" to somebody, 
                             (speaking to Deepak) 
                              This is Julie. 

(What follows is a 6 minute, one sided phone conversation with Deepak mostly listening. Julie is evidently talking non stop)

Deepak Kalpoe:   (talking on phone)  Hello.  Hi.  (O)k. (just the sound of the letter k)

Jamie Skeeters: (yells out to Julie, who is now talking on phone with Deepak) 
                           Let him know how we’re going to protect him. 

Deepak Kalpoe: (on phone)  (listening)   No it’s not bad in jail. 

Jamie Skeeters: (chuckles)

Deepak Kalpoe: (on phone)  (listening) 

Jamie Skeeters: (yelling) Can I give him your number Julie?

Deepak Kalpoe:  (listening with long silences, punctuated by intermittent acknowledgment sounds from Deepak) 

Deepak Kalpoe: (O)k. (just the sound of the letter k)

                           (a listening long pause)

Deepak Kalpoe:   Yeah

                           (a listening long pause)

Deepak Kalpoe: (O)k. 

                           (a listening long pause)

Jamie Skeeters: Don’t hang up. I want to talk to her for a minute.

                           (a listening long pause)

Deepak Kalpoe:   Yeah. 

                           (a listening long pause)

Jamie Skeeters:  (yells to Julie who is still talking to Deepak on the phone)
                           Julie, you gonna make him a movie star?  (chuckles)

Deepak Kalpoe:  (laughs softly, a chuckle, really)

Jamie Skeeters:  (chuckles, as though he is amused at himself)

Deepak Kalpoe:   He, uh.. He asks... He asks.. if you are making a movie star. 

Jamie Skeeters:   (chuckles), 

Deepak Kalpoe:   (a small laugh, more of a snicker)

                           (a listening long pause)

Deepak Kappa:   Um. 

                           (a long listening pause)

Jamie Skeeters: You can trust her.  She's the one with the money and the attorneys...

Deepak Kalpoe: (listening, a very long pause)

Deepak Kalpoe: (chuckles) 

                           (a listening long pause)

Deepak Kalpoe:  All right.  Right. Okay.  Okay.  Well, um, uh not right now, but I'm talking it over with him. 
                           And you know... Uh... Hold on, because he... .uh.. wants to talk to you.  Um, nice meeting you
                           though.  Okay, all right, bye. 

Jamie Skeeters: (now talking on phone to Julie)
                           Hey Jules, is it okay to give him your number?  In case they throw me off this island and
                           stop contact. Good.  Ok, gal, if that happens I’ll give you a jingle and that’s how we’ll 
                           play it.  All right, yeah.  Yeah.  Ok.  We’ll see just how sharp she is.  I know she’s not as 
                           sharp as you are.  That way I’m gonna give her your number and say don’t do anything else
                           until she calls you.  I know, I know her.  I can talk to her.  I’ll tell her that I will.  I won’t lie to 
                           her but I’ll tell her that I will... I can’t confirm it now... let me contact my source and then I’ll 
                           have my source give me a number that my source calls you directly, not your director or 
                           producer, you.  And then,  then I’ll get a hold of you and you can call.  And listen my wife’s 
                           worried that she’d think that Greta found out, because my wife said “my husband’s a
                           professional, you should act like one.”  And, my wife knows she's a professional because…
                           we don’t need her as an enemy against these three boys here, we wanna keep her on our 
                           side.  All right kid, well it's midnight here.  Ok,  (laughs) bye.  Take care, bye. 

                          (now speaks to to Deepak) 

Jamie Skeeters: She’s a good person.  I’ll give ya her number, private number, in case something happens to
                            me.  I don’t think they’re gonna (unintelligible), they’re too scared.  I’m gonna let you in 
                            on something...  If you burn me…

Continued from Segment two...

Jamie Skeeters:   I’m gonna let you in on something...  If you burn me… I will lose my source on the
                             inside that would tell me what's going to be happening to you before it happens to 
                             you... so you can't burn me. Would you rather I not tell you?
.
Deepak Kalpoe:   Depends... Dangerous? Am I in danger? That's... really.. most important.

Jamie Skeeters: No, I'm in danger. Ha, ha, ha, ha.  (Like forced laughter)  Yes, Yes... it could be.. 
                             It's not where you are going to be hurt or killed or anything like that.  I'm going to take 
                             a chance with you, but I'm telling you right now, it's so confidential, you're going to know 
                             what I'm talking about, because that's why you're here, you've already got an idea.  But
                            if the party knows that I told you, that party is going to run to somebody else and say 
                             that Jamie told you.  And then I'm going to  get my source cut right in half on people 
                             that are on the inside over here, telling me what's happening to you.  I won't know 
                             what's going to happen to you before it happens to you.  Does that make sense
                             to you?

Deepak Kalpoe:  Yeah

Jamie Skeeters: Right after the guy called that testified against you... the gardener. You made a call. Not 
                             a telephone call, but you made a call to a girl and asked her to be your alibi.  That girl
                             went right to the FBI. She's scared that she's going to get mixed up and thrown in jail and
                             be arrested. And they recorded your voice on a (unintelligible) call.  They've got you 
                             calling for an alibi. 

Deepak Kalpoe:   But, I didn't call anyone.

Jamie Skeeters: I heard your voice.  I mean, I saw the voice on the telephone call message.

Deepak Kalpoe:  And, where was the call number?

Jamie Skeeters: I can find out.  But, anyway, that girl..they have... the  FBI has your. You did it, not 
                            on the phone, but you did it... phone call through the internet.  Anyway...

Deepak Kalpoe:  It's just not possible, because I didn't.
                             (chuckles)
                            I didn't. 

Jamie Skeeters: You may have called somebody, somehow, insinuating you wanted them... or they were
                            wearing a wire.  One or the other, I'm not sure how they did it.  But, I do know after that... 
                            that guy testified, you allegedly.  I don't know the true story. You called this girl and said I'm 
                            going to need you to help me with an alibi.  She... got scared... went to the Feds. The
                            justice system knows about it and I know you're going to get picked up. And they are 
                            going to use that against you as your scared alibi.  It's not good for you, guy.  It's not good
                            at all what's happening.  They say that you were running scared and you called, saying 
                            you need help or something. I can get the conversation; it's gonna take me a couple days.

Deepak Kalpoe:   Are parts anonymous?  Or all of  it or...?

Jamie Skeeters: I don't know.  I just tell you what I found out from my source. That other... the mother knows, her 
                            attorneys know, the justice know and the police know.  I got first (unintelligible) and this girl 
                            here is tipping them.  Whatever, that family knows.  As a matter of fact, I may go do the
                            last kiss you know, and say "Hi  here's... here's, if I can help you, give me a call.," just
                            so I can see what they know. That's usually how I work on that side. If they a...  Anyhow.
                            It's a good friend of yours and she's scared for her well being.  So, if you go back and 
                            threaten her, if it did happen, they will snap you up and (unintelligible).  So, because the feds 
                            know and people know and they, they...

Deepak Kalpoe:   And who is this lady friend?

Jamie Skeeters:  I  will find out  I will find out, for..

Deepak Kalpoe:   Because, it's not true.

Jamie Skeeters:  Ok,  Oh,  I'll find out. Could it be your brother, saying it?

Deepak Kalpoe:   I don't know. That's the thing, I don't know.      28:06 min

Jamie Skeeters:  It's one of you, but they told me, you.  That's why I needed to get this thing done right away. 
                             On you... the polygraph. That's why. And, that's why I said what I did earlier.  I didn't want
                             to say it in front of her, because I didn't know if that was your (?girlfriend? word not clear).

Deepak Kalpoe:   No. Uh..  No, we're not...

Jamie Skeeters:  No.  I'm kidding. 
                            (laughs) 
                            Anyway, this person is apparently somebody you talked to about this and something is not...
                            And has already told them what she told you.  And sometimes your closest friends, if they're
                           worried.  And this thing is that big, they'll burn you.

Deepak Kalpoe:   I don't have any close friends anymore; they're all gone.

Jamie Skeeters:  Really?  Because of this? It wrecked your life hasn't it.

Deepak Kalpoe:   Everyone is gone.

Jamie Skeeters:  Uh

Deepak Kalpoe:   Everything is empty. The bottle is empty.the party is...

Jamie Skeeters:   I can help you fill the bottle back up with the polygraph.

Deepak Kalpoe:   All gone

Jamie Skeeters:   I can help fill that bottle back up where they will be begging you to say they're
                            sorry. I really can guy.  The polygraph is that strong.

Deepak Kalpoe:   Are you trying to scare me with.. with.. with  the phone call to this lady friend, just so I will
                             take the polygraph, so?

Jamie Skeeters:  No, I just wanted you to know that I am not holding anything back.

(Beginning of  video tape 4) - overlaps end of tape 3

Deepak Kalpoe:  Cause you don't have to, let me talk it out with my attorney and if he wants to, I  do it and
                            that's it and I'm... It's not that big of a problem if its (unintelligible) and I'll call you. 
                            Do you want the polygraph for this show?

Jamie Skeeters: Well, I want the polygraph that will help you...

Deepak Kalpoe:  Well, I help you... and that's that... that's it.  Cause that's your goal right? 
                             Right now?

Jamie Skeeters:   Well, my goal is to get the girl back. That's my number one goal. Get the girl 
 (End Video tape 3) or the body back.  I don't care about the other shit.  Life goes on. People marry,
                             they kill, they die and they...  I want the girl back.  That's my number one goal.
                             But, in the meantime I've got enough ethics and credibility... I'm not trying to scare 
                             you at all. I'm not, I'm really not.  I here... I can help you.  Your friends have checked
                             me out.  I'm on the internet in a million places.

Deepak Kalpoe:   Yeah

Jamie Skeeters:    And it will tell you all the cases I've done  and people I've helped.  I mean, I don't have
                              to prove (unintelligible) there for you to see. And  it's uh... uh..  All the awards... I'm 
                              an honest person and I'm not a scary...  I can help you   People are scared of a 
                              polygraph, because they don't understand it.   Before I give you one, you will 
                              understand what makes it work. You can stop anytime you like.  You can't make anybody
                              take a polygraph against their will. Nobody.  Can't make them. It won't work, gotta be voluntary.
                              It will help your credibility. This is what it'll do.  If it will not help you in court.. but you will. 
                              It'll help your credibility.  And, when you have public opinion on your side, your friends'll 
                              come back. When its... Especially people like Phil.  People think Phil walk on water, 
                              they really do.  For the people who know Phil, "Oh, if Phil says 'you're guilty,' they ought 
                              to hang you." "If he says, 'you're innocent,' then those other bastards ought to be hung." 
                              And that's how it is.  I don't know if you watch Phil that much.

Deepak Kalpoe:  No... no, I.

Jamie Skeeters: Well you talk to people... you just talk to people.  They will tell you, this guy can 
                              influence a country.  And your Queen is not that happy with what's going on. And 
                              when the U.S... I'm sure the Queen watches Phil.

Deepak Kalpoe:    (snickers)

Jamie Skeeters: I'm serious, I really do. He will fly over here for you. He's that kind of of man.

Deepak Kalpoe:  The polygraph I will give but..

Jamie Skeeters: For the show?

Deepak Kalpoe:  Yeah, but no interview.  None, whatsoever.

Jamie Skeeters: No what?

Deepak Kalpoe:  No interview, none whatsoever.

Jamie Skeeters: Ok

Deepak Kalpoe:  No cameras, nothing

Jamie Skeeters: Ok. I would like to do the polygraph and I think once we do the polygraph and I have
                             it on file, if you change your mind, it's yours.  If you change your mind, or you want 
                             me to testify for you, I will.

Deepak Kalpoe:  The polygraph I do, after my attorney approves it.

Jamie Skeeters: Yeah.  If you take it and afterwards you want it...your attorney wants it, I will testify 
                              on your behalf along with the Phil, the people on his side.  I'm going to burn
                              that son of a bitch anyway, the other guy. He is a lying sack of shit.

Deepak Kalpoe:  The gardener.. .They wanted to burn the gardener also, but they didn't.

Jamie Skeeters: Well, I'm going to get... find that gardener and I'm going to give him a test 
                              and see if he's tellin' the truth.

Deepak Kalpoe:  He's gone.  In Columbia somewhere.

Jamie Skeeters: He was in town this morning, possibly.  I know where he's staying.

Deepak Kalpoe:  But as far as me going on camera, it still just doesn't matter.  Because at the end 
                              of the night, everyone, still, when they go to bed, they think, "these boys know 
                              something."  It's gonna come down to that, so we gave up on that a long time ago. 

Jamie Skeeters: And you do know something, but they don't know what you know.  That's what it 
                              is, they... you do know something.

Deepak Kalpoe:  It's on paper there.  What we know? It's is on paper. Signed.

Jamie Skeeters: Fine. Uh.. you know, but..

Deepak Kalpoe:   You see, the amount of pressure they put on us in those twenty-six days and 
                            are putting on right now on Van der Sloot.  Uh... people don't see that.

Jamie Skeeters: Oh, I know what they're doing.

Deepak Kalpoe:   Yeah.  And, uh you don't wanna know how we we've been treated.

Jamie Skeeters: Did they... did they beat you?

Deepak Kalpoe:  Uh... no.  They weren't...  They did to Van der Sloot

Jamie Skeeters: What?

Deepak Kalpoe:  They did to Joran.

Jamie Skeeters: They did beat him up?

Deepak Kalpoe:  They treated us hard.  And, after all that pressure...
                             (sighs)
                             These people still thinks, you know,  we know something. Their problem.

Jamie Skeeters: Well, it wouldn't hurt to have somebody that makes... (unintelligible)

Deepak Kalpoe:    (unintelligible ) ...us up.  Because he knows, he saw it. They appealed and they 
                             still lost it because they saw also.  The amount of pressure we've been in, uh.. for 
                             example, one bread and a little cup of water from eight am to seven pm. 
                             They don't know that.

Jamie Skeeters: You should tell people.

Deepak Kalpoe:  Why?  They just don't care.  None of 'em care. I mean, when Beth got on and cry
                             and this and that, everyone's now like.. you know, sympathy and those things, 
                             but, uh...they didn't hear our side of the story and...

Jamie Skeeters: Phil will tell your...your side of the story. I'm serious.  They will... He will tell your
                            side of the story to where they will never do that to you again. 
                            Because they know you have a friend. Powerful friend. I'm serious.  I, uh I have 
                            heard they're gonna probably try and pick you up by the weekend

Deepak Kalpoe:   I.. uh..

Jamie Skeeters:  Ok, well then we heard the same thing. Can we?  If your attorney says, "yes," can 
                             we do that then... uh?

Deepak Kalpoe:   You heard Monday... I heard (unintelligible).

Jamie Skeeters:   Ok.

Jamie Skeeters:    If your attorney agrees tomorrow, I'll go to his office. He can feel safe 
                               with me in his office. And I'll bring this thing with me. 

Deepak Kalpoe:     Yes, that's fine 

Jamie Skeeters:     But if he says ok, let's do it right away in case they do pick you up 'cause
                               I can't wait til they you get out. And they want to do this show by probably
                               the uh... they want to do it by 12th, at least of September; takes so long to 
                               piece things together. So if I, if we can do the polygraph right away. And 
                               you tell Phil, if you want to do an interview with him, you tell him what they
                               did to you and your brother. You let it be known. And when they... what else
                               can they do to you? They won't let it happen again, and they know you're 
                               gonna, we're going to ask you. And if they're doing that kind of ...

                               (unintelligible, both talking together)

Deepak Kalpoe:   ...The other guy made a complaint already. that um 

Jamie Skeeters:      Van der Sloot? 

Deepak Kalpoe:      Van der Sloot made a complaint that they, they beat him up. But um, but nothing so far. 

Jamie Skeeters:   See? You have to have the backing of somebody that's big and powerful.

Deepak Kalpoe:      And about interviews, et cetera,  I just told someone, because the price is not too 
                               good yet because, uh...  we are planning to write a book. 

Jamie Skeeters:     Who's writing a book? 

Deepak Kalpoe:   Me. That's what they told me. They said write a book, explain everything in the book, 
                               give it to a publisher. You'll have a pretty good sum of money, and that's... that's

Jamie Skeeters:      Put your polygraph in your book, too, and your interview with Phil in the book. 
                               He'll give you videos for your book.

Deepak Kalpoe:      That's why we are not doing interviews right then, I mean,  and we are not wearing wires like 
                               everyone on camera and we have our reasons why. 

Jamie Skeeters:.     Phil doesn't write a book, he does a show. And if you would... you could you can take 
                               whatever you're, you could put that, whole chapters... 

Deepak Kalpoe:      But, he's paying me for a show, that's the...

Jamie Skeeters:      He won't pay you NOW (emphasizes the word now) for a show. But if you want to 
                               have an interview with somebody that will pay you, I'll fix you up with Oprah. 
                               (whispers)
                               She'll pay you. 
                               (back to normal voice)
                               She won't pay you now, because it's still an investigation. 

Deepak Kalpoe:     That's right, that's one of the reasons also that we are not going, you know, on 
                               television or magazines, all those things, because no one, no one knows what's
                               going to happen. 

Jamie Skeeters:     Well, he can help you if you can verify. If you will take a polygraph, I can give 
                              you another polygraph besides this thing with the girl. Were you tortured? ...in jail, 
                              yes or no? You pass a polygraph, that's credibility. 

Deepak Kalpoe:.    Well, I wasn't tortured (chuckles) 

Jamie Skeeters:     And then that one will go in 

                              (unintelligible, both talking together)

Jamie Skeeters:     Huh? 

Deepak Kalpoe:  I wasn't tortured in...

Jamie Skeeters:    Well what I mean, torture doesn't mean they cut you up and beat you, torture is like
                              you said, giving you one sip of water in this hundred-degree weather once a day in a
                              hot jail cell. That's torture. Keeping you awake, taking your clothes off, turning a hose
                              on you, making you stand in a position, that's torture. I mean you call it what you want, 
                              but that's what they call torture The can keep the lights on and off, that's torture. Um, 
                              water drippin on a drum, that's torture. That's what it is, torture. It's just being mean,
                              but it's torture. 

Deepak Kalpoe:     No

Jamie Skeeters: Just like our guys did to those troops over there in Bagdad... made them take their
                              clothes off and  lay on top of each other.  They were thown in jail for that too.  Jerks.
                              Well, I'll talk to your attorney on it. I mean if you give me his number or you and or
                              I'll call him in the morning  or you have him call me... but, I would like to do it right 
                              away if we do it, because it's getting close. And if... even if you say, won't help me 
                              in court, if it's there, let your attorney decide that.  He will use that. I'll guarantee it.. 
                              He will use your statement to me. I'm credible. I'll be testifying on your behalf, this 
                              is what you told me and I believe him. And they say, how, why do you believe him? 
                              Because who I am and what I do.  And what, who are you, what you do?  Well, 
                              since you asked your honor, I'm a polygrapher and I'm a professional interrogator. 
                              And he told me this stuff... and I've got it on video and I've got it on charts and I've
                              got twenty six hundred people in this world that are experts in this that'll say, "He's
                              tellin' the truth."  That have to have to tell them that ...  they have to .. that's how 
                              we do it in the states. I just don't mention the word polygraph.  He told me this 
                              and I proved it.  And if they walk in and ask me how I proved it, I got 'em.  If they
                              ask me, I didn't say that.. I'll. You're even easier you don't have a jury, you have
                              a judge. 

Deepak Kalpoe:    We'll, the same judge can send you to twenty-five years.

Jamie Skeeters: If you killed her. If you planned and killed her...

Deepak Kalpoe:  Well,  I, I heard they are planning to charge from the other guy with murder. 

Jamie Skeeters: Van der Sloot?

Deepak Kalpoe:  Yeah.  For September? They're... what we'd heard, he's are expected to charge. 
                              And, um, I personally think it's going to happen also.  And then they're comin'. 
                              They're gonna come after us as accomplish (meant accomplices). To all of us
                              (unintelligible)  It's all expected. We're ready.

Jamie Skeeters: Well, what are you gonna do about it?  You just gonna lay there and let 'em 
                              do it to you again?

Deepak Kalpoe:  No, course not

Jamie Skeeters:  How old are you?

Deepak Kalpoe:  21, seventeenth of October.

Jamie Skeeters:  22.

Deepak Kalpoe:  Yeah.

Jamie Skeeters:  You just can't lay down and let them to do that to you, buddy. 

Deepak Kalpoe:  I know. 

Jamie Skeeters:  You just can't let that happen. I can help you with that. They're not gonna take up
                               for you. Your minister of justi.. or whatever he's called, he's not gonna take up for
                               you.  We'll eat 'em up. They were gonna take us down in the states.  We'll eat 'em
                               up.  If we're right.  If we're wrong we won't do shit.  If we're right. we'll eat 'em up. 
                               And you can use all that for your book, too. That's more chapters for you book. 
                               If it'll be known nationally, it'll be known all over the world.  When I did the first Phil
                               show, I didn't get paid either. I just did a polygraph and I got more damn business.
                               I made probably thirty, forty thousand dollars. Just for being on his show, where 
                               he was saying I'm the best in the world.  Just by people sayin', that you work for Phil,
                               you gotta be the best in the world. If Phil says you're innocent, you gotta be innocent
                               'cause Phil says so.  He's a god.  But, I mean if he says you were... he's that 
                               powerful.  And that's his number one person you just talked to. She's the reason
                               I'm here. She's the reason I'm here.  But, that powerful. And you can use whatever 
                               you get out of Phil. He'll give you the tapes. Most people write books that go on the
                               Phil show. I'd probably go on again. But most people go on his show will write a book
                               and... successful. He'll give  you the videos of the whole show.  They have cameras
                               this way, that way, this way, every way, everything, but up your ass.

Deepak Kalpoe:     (snickers)

Jamie Skeeters:     And they will, they'll give you the raw footage, 'cause they're gonna take the best
                              one after the show. And I mean to tell you buddy, it's great. I have several at the house.

Deepak Kalpoe:     I'm not sure about the show, yet. 

Jamie Skeeters:     It'd be the best thing for you and for your reputation. 

Deepak Kalpoe:     I'm really not sure about the show.

Jamie Skeeters:     Ok. Then kick it around.  But it's a...  just kick it around. And it's a.. if you want it,
                               it's there. If you don't want it, don't worry about it.  But it's there if you want it.
                               You... you. Nobody else  You... or your attorney... your turn to do it.  and it's not
                               for Holloway... It's not for anybody.  It's... 

Deepak Kalpoe:     That's what we told most people also.  Because Greta also... 
                              She... she was offering, you know, offering sums of money also, you know, for an
                              exclusive (unintelligible)..

Jamie Skeeters:     How much?

Deepak Kalpoe:     Uh... the numbers are pretty big.

Jamie Skeeters:     Like what? I'm kinda curi..

Deepak Kalpoe:     Four and a half million. 

Jamie Skeeters:     My, my.

Deepak Kalpoe:     But, we just can't talk about it yet.  It's just an ongoing investigation.
                              I just... I can't.. really. I told them repeatedly, go to my attorney. If they have 
                              something.

Jamie Skeeters:    Well, I can't give you money now, but I... I can give you freedom. So that you 
                             can sue the hell out of everybody and..