Mountain Brook student
quotes
They have been compiled from
various interviews on cable news shows and from newspaper articles. ,
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1. Rumored quote from a
student who said he saw Joran win money for Natalee.
2. Any other student statements |
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Ruth McVay: We were
in our hotel casino. And that was the first night that she (Natalee)
had ever met him. Contrary to other stories that are circulating, she did
not know him before that night. source
This conflicts with her
own story told in another interview (shown later), that Natalee first met
Joran for five minutes on Saturday at the Excelsior and then again the
next night (Sunday).
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Ruth McVay: (responding
to question how Joran caught her attention) He didn't. He was sitting
at our blackjack table, and he just seemed like a normal teenager. He wasn't
flirting. He wasn't really outgoing at all. And Natalee, just in passing,
introduced herself and walked off. And nothing was strange or out of the
ordinary about him at all. source
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Ruth McVay: (responding
to questions whether Natalee made an arrangement with Joran to go to Carlos
'n Charlies) Not with him. Absolutely not. With us. She went with all
of our friends. He wasn't with us. He didn't go with us. He
(Joran) came with his friends. He had told us that night that Sunday
was not a fun night on the island and that no one goes out. So we found
it ironic that he showed up. source
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Francis Ellen Byrd:
(about the morning of the flight home) Oh, we knew that something was
wrong because Natalee is one of our most responsible friends. And when
she was not with us that morning, we were worried, and we were right there
with the chaperones, trying to figure out what was going on. source
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Ruth McVay: (to
question if she saw Natalee leave with Joran) No, I actually left an
hour before the club closed. source
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Francis Ellen Byrd:
( to question if any of her friends saw Natalee leave with Joran) No.
If one of our good friends had seen her, we would never have let her get
in the car with him, ever. Absolutely not. source
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Ruth McVay: (to
question what time did she think Natalee left) From other people talking
and the time that the club closed, around 1 a.m. source
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Francis Ellen Byrd: (to
question whether just Natalee was left behind or was there a group)
No, I don't know how many people exactly, but there was a lot of people
there at closing time, including the local people and all the other people
that were in Carlos and Charlie's that night. And when we all left, there
was just a huge group of people waiting outside for taxis, and I never
saw her get into that taxi. source
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Beau Barron: I don't
think she (Natalee) was too concerned about setting an example as
much as she was about just being herself. She was more just like, "this
is me, and if you don't like it, then that's too bad."
source
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Beau Barron: She
(Natalee)
was a little bit more outgoing than everybody else. She was just always
a fun one to be around. And she was always laughing and having a good time.
source
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Beau Barron: She
had all these, like, figurines of like "Wizard of Oz" characters and stuff.
And like paintings and everything, which I mean I guess that was her thing
. source
Beau Barron: quoted
as remembering being at the bar with Holloway that night, and wondering
how it could have turned out differently. It's always in the back of
everybody's mind. The chaperones are not to blame. They weren't there
to hold our hands. By no means should this be put on them at all. source
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Katie Henley: The
following sounds liked a paraphrased quote: "They found her bags in
her room with her passport and cell phone and were instantly concerned,"
said Katie Henley. This also sounds paraphrased: "She said no one
wondered about her whereabouts sooner, because the students were spread
around the sprawling resort and often camped in each others' rooms." The
following sounds more like a verbatim quote: Natalee's Miss Itinerary,
if she knew she was going to miss a flight she'd freak out. It's just not
like her. When she wasn't there, we knew something was wrong.
cloned
source -(Scroll down to entry with "From the Birminham News Friday,
June 03, 2005")
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Unidentified female student:
That (Wizard of Oz) was her (Natalee's) favorite movie when she
was younger. So for her birthday, her mom recently got her a "Wizard of
Oz" cake. And that was just kind of a joke because she's so old but she
had a "Wizard of Oz" cake for her birthday. source
Unidentified female student:
In eighth grade, she used to have a box of chapstick, full of lip balms
of about a hundred different flavors. And one time, jokingly, we took one
of the flavors. And she called the next day looking for her mocha chocolate
chapstick or something. She knew exactly what flavor was missing. source
Milner Owens: A
lot of us feel personal guilt. People are trying not to re-live it.
I wish we had done something. We've all learned a lesson from this. We've
changed. Life is altered. source
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Unidentified male student:
We only have one high school, and of course the high school is kind of
a binding thing in a small community. So everybody rallies around the high
school. If you don't know everybody, you know somebody that knows somebody.
source`
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Unidentified male student:
This was her (Natalee's) reward for working so hard and getting
a scholarship to Alabama. source
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Unidentified male student:
Everyone was going on that trip, all of our good friends and everybody
was just so excited, we couldn't wait to get down there. source
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Francis Ellen Byrd:
We immediately knew something was wrong, because she was the first one
to wake up. And when her roommates knocked on my door and said that they
didn't know where she was, we went straight to the chaperones and they
immediately started working on it.
Interviewer: They
suspected Natalee was still on the island because in her room they found
her luggage.
Francis Ellen Byrd:
Right.
Interviewer:
Found her passport.
Francis Ellen Byrd:
Right.
Interviewer:
But no Natalee?
Francis Ellen Byrd:
Right. source
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Francis Ellen Byrd: We
went out on the beach every day, hung out together. Our grade's really
close. And everyone hung out together the entire time. source
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Beau Barron: There
were days, just wake up -- I don't know -- around like 10:00 -- and then
just go hang out on the beach all day long. And if you wanted to, you could
take a cab into the city and go look at the shops and stuff like that.
If you wanted to, go hang out in the casino. source
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Beau Barron: (talking
about a fundraising cookout) It ended up just being great, everybody.
It was a great turnout. And we raised a bunch of money. And
I think we got around $2,500. And, really, it‘s really brought the
community together and just gives us all hope to see that everybody is
still, still really concentrated on the case and nobody is really giving
up. So... source
William Morris:
We also raised a lot more money than from the cookout. We had a...we
had this fund-raiser this past weekend at one of our local restaurants
that we‘ve been going to ever since we were in elementary school.
And, actually, a band that we‘ve also been listening to that‘s actually
kind of hit it big lately came back and played for us. And they raised
over—a little over $20,000. And all the money is going into a Natalee
Holloway trust fund. And it‘s all going towards the family and just
expenses that just are so hard to be paid by them. source
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William Morris:
I don‘t know a person that just doesn‘t like Natalee. She‘s not mean
to anyone. She‘s just an outgoing, beautiful, just nice girl that
everyone is missing and ready for her to come home. It‘s hard, but it‘s
also just a reminder that we just have to keep praying for her. And
the more we can do here, it just makes everybody feel so much better.
People have actually... we‘ve... Natalee‘s closest friends have braided
these... oh, just thousands of these bracelets. And people have been
wanting them all over the state. And there‘s... also, there‘s local,
like, local businesses giving money. And everyone is just chipping
in just to bring Natalee home.
source
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Beau Barron:
She‘s a smart girl. She‘s level-headed. And she has just a
bunch of common sense. And just the fact that something like this would
ever happen to her just blows my mind. And, so, I mean, it‘s just
really hard to come to grips with. But we all—we just—we‘re trying
to all take it in stride, so...
source
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Trey Merrill and Beau
Barron: (quoted in newspaper) ...(We) encountered van
der Sloot while playing cards at their hotel casino. source
Trey Merrill and Beau
Barron: (talking about a cook-out they held)
(We) decided to host the fund-raiser after Barron's uncle donated
a large grill and food. source
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Bryan Reynolds: There
was almost a fight between my friend and him (Joran). I had to break
them up. That's when I got a good look at them. source
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Bryan Reynolds: (quoted
in newspaper as saying) ... (I) saw (Joran and the Kalpoe
brothers) hanging out at the Holiday Inn source
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Bryan Reynolds: (quoted
in newspaper as saying) ...they (Joran and the Kalpoe brothers)
were the first people (I) considered as potential suspects. source
Bryan Reynolds:
That was the first people (Joran and the Kalpoe brothers) who came
to mind.
source
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Bryan Reynolds: (quoted
as saying) Van der Sloot got into a scuffle with some of the
Mountain Brook guys at the bar. source
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Bryan Reynolds: I
broke it up. It was outside the Carlos 'n Charlies, the second night we
were there. source
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Madison Whatley (trip
room mate): (wearing baby blue rubber bracelet that says "Hope for
Natalee.") It's frustrating, but it helps to come to the prayer service.
source
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Beau Barron: (quoted
as saying) He and other classmates who went on the trip didn't
know what to think when Holloway failed to show up for the flight home
to Alabama on May 30. source
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Beau Barron: Initially
it was just disbelief. source
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Beau Barron: (quoted
as saying) He wondered if they could have done more to make
sure Holloway got back to their hotel safely. (But) that's something
you don't need to dwell on because you can't turn back time. source
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Beau Barron:
(quoted as saying) People who went on the trip aren't publicly discussing
details of what happened in Aruba at the request of Holloway's family,
which fears the publicity could hamper the investigation. source
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Sarah Burton:
I was talking with a friend last night about how I was so amazed that it's
gotten so big and is all over the nation.
source
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Student one: (at
prayer service) (We) were asked by her family not
to talk to reporters. source
(scroll to second article)
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Student two: (at
prayer service) It's all in our best interest not to talk to the press
right now. But, thank you though. source
(scroll to second article)
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Several students: (most
at a prayer service said they couldn't say anything, including — in almost
every case — their names. Nor would they provide the identities of the
chaperones who accompanied them on the trip when asked.) source
(scroll to second article)
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Dark-haired student:
(at prayer service when asked about the trip) put an index finger over
her lips in a "shush" source
(scroll to second article)
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Student three:(at
prayer service when asked about the trip) Sorry, it's just kind of
hard to talk. source
(scroll to second article)
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Student four : (at
prayer service when asked about the trip,quoted as saying) ....asked
by her (Natalee's) family not to talk to reporters. source
(scroll to second article)
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Jamie Justice: (quoted
on cable news show as saying) ....(I) got to know van der Sloot
at the Black Jack table. source
Jamie Justice: The
way he came off wasn't at all in a threatening way, he was really naive
to everybody. source
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Jamie Justice: He
didn't look like one of the locals and he didn't act like one of the locals.
He acted more like he was just down there vacationing. source
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Jamie Justice: (quoted
on cable news show as saying) ... although Holloway is a sweet person
she isn't overly trusting. source
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Virginia Page: I
remember dancing with her for most of the time, and then an hour before
(Carlos ‘N’ Charlies) closed, I didn’t see her again. She hadn’t planned
on meeting (Van der Sloot), he just happened to be there. sourcecloned
source
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Virginia Page: That
night was more hectic than others was because it closed at 1 a.m. There
was sort of a mass exodus out of the place. Everyone left all at once.
sourcecloned
source
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Sara Emily Allen:
You didn’t want to stand out on the side of the street, and we were all
in one place getting in cabs. We knew none of our friends would get up
and go somewhere else, because there was nowhere else to be.” sourcecloned
source
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Virginia Page: Cell
phones didn’t work. sourcecloned
source
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Virginia Page: Natalee
was in my group of friends. I had known her since she moved to our high
school at the beginning of eighth grade. There were about 15 of us
who hung out all the time. sourcecloned
source
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Virginia Page:(about
braided yarn bracelet she was wearing).Most people wear them.
At the very beginning, we made bracelets, and sent them to people in Aruba,
and everywhere. sourcecloned
source
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Sara Emily Allen: I
had classes with Natalee. Everyone who came here (Vanderbilt University)
knew her. sourcecloned
source
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Virginia Page: I’ve
kind of stopped listening to what the news says because there’s been a
lot of false information. It’s good, but they make everything sound like
a step forward. That would a big progression, but it’s hard to know. sourcecloned
source
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Sara Emily Allen: When
you watch the news, it makes you excited that maybe something happened,
that they figured it out. When they don’t, it’s just disappointing. sourcecloned
source
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Virginia Page: I
think mainly what her mom wants, what other people want, isn’t necessarily
closure, but just to know what happened. It’s just really important
to find out what happened. sourcecloned
source
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Virginia Page: (to
question about belief Natalee is still alive) Declined to comment source
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Sara Emily Allen:(to
question about belief Natalee is still alive) Declined to comment sourcecloned
source
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Virginia Page: Part
of me doesn’t like hearing about it a lot, but if everyone forgot about
it, then that would just make me sadder. When people know about it and
talk about it, I feel that people are still looking. sourcecloned
source
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Katie Bluhm:
(about why she started a Natalee facebook club): The facebook
club was started as a way for fellow Mountain Brook alums, and anyone else
who cares, to band together and show support for (Natalee) and her family.
sourcecloned
source
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Virginia Page: It’s
important (keeping Natalee's memory alive)...I think about it everyday.
It’s hard to forget, and I wouldn’t want to forget it. I have pictures
of her on my wall. It makes me feel better that I think about her every
day at least. sourcecloned
source
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Virginia Page:
Many houses in Mountain Brook have yellow ribbons tied on their mailboxes.
sourcecloned
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Virginia Page: It’s
very hard. Once summer stopped, it seemed like everyone was going to forget.
It’s not as bad for me here (at college), though. Everyone is together
dealing with it at the same time. The worst part is not knowing anything,
and it’s been that way for a long time. sourcecloned
source
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Sara Emily Allen: Not
being with anyone from Mountain Brook at Vanderbilt would be really hard.
sourcecloned
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Alana Jordan: (answering
question if she knew Joran's face) Yes. Well, I didn't recognize him
that night because it was dark, but we had seen him, yes. source
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Alana Jordan:
(to question where, what time and in what condition last saw Natalee)
The last time I saw Natalee, we were leaving the club, and a friend of
mine went back to the club because we were going to make sure that no one
got left because we were leaving at closing. And we ran into her and asked
her if she was Ok. And she said, "Yes" and indicated that she was going
back to the hotel with some other Mountain Brook students.
source
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Alana Jordan:
(answering question, was Natalee intoxicated when the club was closing.)
She looked Ok to me. I asked her if she was "all right," and she said she
"was fine." And obviously, if I didn't believe her, then I
wouldn't have let her go.
source
Interviewer: She
didn't look like she was weaving or sick or anything like that? She looked
fine?
Alana Jordan:
No.
source
Alana Jordan:
(was Natalee with Van Der Sloot) Yes, she was.
source
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Alana Jordan: (did
she know Joran) I never met him before, and that night he didn't talk.
He was just walking next to her. But I assumed that it was him. It was
a tall guy with dark hair. I never knew his name, though.
source
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Alana Jordan: (responding
to question whether 17 and 18 year olds were drinking at CnC's) Eighteen-year-olds
were, because that's the legal drinking age. I don't think anyone
17 could get into the club.
source
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Alana Jordan: (responding
to question about Natalee outside the club) Well, we just assumed
that she was going with... there was two groups of students, and we assumed
that she was going with a group that was in front of us. And we turned
the corner to go to another club, me and a couple of my friends, to make
sure that no one got left in that club, because we weren't sure if anyone
had gone there. Make sure that no one got left there source
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Alana Jordan: (answering
if she had seen Natalee with Joran before the last night) No, but he
was in our casino a lot.
source
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Alana Jordan: (to
question, were you a close friend of Natalee) She's pretty much the
reason I passed calculus. Yes.
Alana Jordan: (to
the question, so you know her very well?) Yes.
source
Interviewer: Would you be surprised to hear
that she went off with some guy? Would that shock you?
Alana Jordan: Yes.
She's not -- there's been a lot of allegations that she was a less than
respectable girl, and that is completely false. That's really why I wanted
to come on this show, to just clarify that she's a really good girl, a
really smart girl, and that's why this is such a shock to us.
source
Interviewer: So,
that wouldn't ordinarily be her modus operandi, to go in a car with three
guys? That wouldn't have happened in your experience?
Alana Jordan:
No.
Interviewer: And
you know her very well?
Alana Jordan: I would
say so, yes.
source
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Ed Kissel: (when
was the last time he saw Natalee) I think I saw her a little later
that night. I had stayed in Carlos 'n Charlie's pretty long, and I saw
her dancing with Van Der Sloot later that night.
source
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Ed Kissel: (did
he know Joran, how did he know who he was) I didn't know him, but I
had seen -- he had been around the hotel and the casino with her (Natalee)
and with her friends, her closer friends, just hanging out around the hotel
for the last few days, two or three days
. source
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Ed Kissel:
(was Natalee intoxicated) I wouldn't say so. We were all having a good
time. I'd go so far as to say that, but I wouldn't say intoxicated.
. source
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Ed Kissel: (was
Natalee drinking) Drinking responsibly is what I would say. Along
with the rest of us. .
source
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Ed Kissel: (did
he see Natalee get into a car with Joran and the two other guys) I
did not see her getting in the car. I saw her leaving, looked like with
Van Der Sloot. I didn't see her getting in the car. You couldn't really
see the road from inside the bar, so that is what I saw. source
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Ed Kissel: (was
he concerned) No. I wasn't personally concerned about
anything. From what I've heard, I heard people talk about him and he sounded
like a nice guy. So I didn't think any big deal. I personally had
ridden in the car over there. I made friends with one of the waiters. I'm
fluent in Spanish, and you know, I was friends with somebody. And so I
was thinking, you know, I rode in a car with somebody, she rides in the
car with somebody, no big deal. I didn't think about it. source
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Alana Jordan:
(responding to interviewer statement that there was no supervision) There
actually was supervision. It wasn't... they knew that this trip was for,
the chaperones, that is. And they weren't breathing down our necks, but
they were looking after us very well. And there's... that's another thing
I wanted to address. A lot of people have said that the chaperons weren't
doing their job, but by all means, they definitely were. source
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Alana Jordan:
(responding to suggestion from interviewer that chaperones were not doing
their job) Well, the thing is, you have to keep in mind there are 130
of us. Natalee is a pretty popular girl. She's friends with a lot of us.
So if she wasn't with one group of friends, it wasn't that no one was looking
out for her. It was that everyone was looking out for her, and we all thought
she was with another group of friends. We were all out really
late. There was no way the chaperones could have kept up with all of us.
I was sitting by the pool until about 5 a.m. And our plane left three hours
later. So I don't blame the chaperones in any way at all. They definitely
did their job. source
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Ruth McVay: (quoted
in interview as saying) Other friends told (me) the story of
how (Natalee) got in the car with strangers. The friends watched
as (Natalee) drove away with three guys the friends had met the
day before. source
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Ruth McVay:
They said "no." They tried to stop her. The million-dollar
question is why she got in the car. It’s the biggest mystery ever. It just
didn’t make sense. I know that Natalee is responsible enough to leave on
her own. source
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Ruth McVay: (about
the morning of the flight home) We thought she slept in another
room so as not to wake us up. We thought she was being polite.We started
walking down the halls knocking on all the doors. We told the chaperone,
'There's a problem, she's not here." source
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Ruth McVay: (about
the flight) As we were boarding, we called Beth. We were freaking
out on the plane ride, trying to figure out anything that could have happened.
source
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Ruth McVay: (about
Beth) Her mom is going insane, but she's the strongest person I know.
source
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Ruth McVay: (commenting
on Natalee getting in the car) But, she had smarts and maturity.
She knew better. Natalee would never take off with people we didn't know.
She was my most responsible friend ever. source
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Ruth McVay: (describing
Natalee) You're attracted to her. You want to be friends with her.
source
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Ruth McVay: We
would stay up talking, we talked about college. She was going to the University
of Alabama on a full scholarship. She wanted to be a doctor, and
we talked about that. She was going to visit me at my college. source
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| Ruth McVay:
Nat met him (Joran) in the hotel casino called Excelsior.
She talked to him for a matter of five minutes when we were playing blackjack.
The group of girls with (Natalee) told (Joran) they would
be at Carlos 'N Charlie's the following night. source |
According to the accounting above,
Natalee first met Joran (for five minutes) on Saturday night at the Excelsior.
Carlos 'n Charlies event was (according to her) the following night,
Sunday. This conflicts with another interview Ruth gave.
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Ruth McVay: I found
it weird because he (Joran) mentioned earlier that no one went out
on Sunday nights, that it was a bad night. And then he showed up at the
place (Carlos 'n Charlies). source
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Ruth McVay: (quoted
as saying in an interview that she was) ...interviewed by the
FBI.
source
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| Ruth McVay: (quoted
in interview) The last night of the vacation Natalee went to a Boyz
II Men and Lauryn Hill concert on Surfside Beach. |
Ruth McVay: (reported
as saying in interview) (Joran) showed up around
midnight. (I) left soon after. I was tired. source
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Hunter Twitty: Her
stepfather and my dad are brothers, and they are each other's only sibling.
We did Christmas together and always split a lake house. We weren't really
close, but she was part of the family, and it's something we're trying
to deal with. source
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Hunter Twitty: (describing
Natalee) Really smart. source
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Thomas Twitty: It
hasn't been a dream summer, I guess you could say. It was a typical senior
trip, about 150 of us, and it's probably hard to keep track of 150 18-year-olds
in Aruba. It's a situation gone bad. source
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Thomas Twitty: You
wish it would just get over with, however you can deal with it. But
at least you'll have something to take your mind off it other than watching
the news every day. source
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Hunter Twitty:
(about going away to college) By the same token, it's tough to leave
your family in that situation. But it's good to get away and start over.
source
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Frances Ellen Byrd:
FBI agents in Birmingham are also interviewing students who went on the
trip. source
Frances Ellen Byrd: I'm
only thinking that she's coming back here tomorrow. She's coming
back. source
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Frances Ellen Byrd: I've
known Natalee since she moved here in eighth grade. Ever since she's been
here, she's been the smartest of all us friends. source
(scroll to 2nd article)
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Thomas Twitty:
She was everything parents look for. Pretty much in every honor society
you could think of. Pretty responsible. Hardly ever got in trouble. Pretty
much everything you would want in a son or daughter. source
(scroll to 2nd article)
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| Ben Miller: (quote
from iNY Newsday June 20., 2005 article ) Ben Miller, a classmate
of Holloway's, said he later saw her leave Carlos 'N Charlie's, where tourists
dance on tables and gulp neon-colored cocktails, with Kalpoe, 21, and his
brother Satish, 18. Cloned
source
Original
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| Frances Ellen Byrd:
Well, I first met Natalee in eighth grade when we had a welcoming party
for her. She moved here from Mississippi. And, ever since then,
I have just been closest friends with her, as well as a few other of all
of our good friends. Everybody in the school loves Natalee.
Nobody can say anything bad about her. She is a straight-A student,
25 in a class out of 300 students in a very—school where we studied very
hard. She is very—has very many honors. She is in dance team,
Bible study. Basically, she is a very responsible, well-loved
child to everyone here.
Interviewer: Tell
me when you and the rest of your friends first figured out that something
was just not right.
Frances Ellen Byrd:
I figured out something was wrong when my friends came to knock on my door
in the morning asking where she was, because Natalee was the first one
up. She is the most responsible out of all of my friends. And
we all—Natalee is the leader of our friends. And when she wasn‘t
there, we went straight—straight to the chaperons because something—we
knew something was wrong. source
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| The following, June 2,
2005, interview is often quoted, so we include it in its entirely.
The interviewer is Joe Scarborough.
Interviewer:
Let me ask you, Frances Ellen, when is the last time you saw her?
Frances Ellen Byrd: That
night.
Interviewer:
Yes, you saw her the night...
Frances Ellen Byrd:
I was with her that night.
Interviewer:
You were with her that night.
Frances Ellen Byrd:
Yes. Yes.
Interviewer:
All the friends went back to the hotel. And did you all see her go
back to the hotel or not?
Frances Ellen Byrd:
I am just leaving it that we saw her there.
Interviewer:
Saw her that night.
Frances Ellen Byrd:
Right.
Mountain Brook youth
minister:
Yes. Absolutely.
Interviewer: All
right. Well, Frances Ellen, thank you so much for being with us tonight.
Mark (Mark Yoder,the youth minister), thank you. And, of course,
our prayers are going to be with you, with Natalee and with Natalee‘s family
on this very important search.
Frances Ellen Byrd:
Thank you. Thank you so much.
(crosstalk)
Mountain Brook youth
minister: We really encourage everyone to pray. Thank you.
Frances Ellen Byrd:
Pray for Natalee. She is coming home.
Mountain Brook youth
minister: Yes.
Interviewer: All
right. Thank you so much. source(tv
program is called Scarborough Country MSNBC)
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Holly Brown: (I)
found Van Der Sloot to be very different. We noticed he was in the casino
all by himself. He lied about his age, and when we went on the (Carlos
'N Charlie's) Web site, we found pictures of him there one week before
at the same place, wearing the same clothes. source
(orginally at cnn, not available there now)
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Interviewer:
Did he he seem sort of like for lack of a better... a sort of a guy trying
to pick up women?
Ruth McVey:
Not at all.
Interviewer:
So like a ... just like a gambler?
Ruth McVey:
He was just there to play and be friendly, and that's it.
Interviewer:
Did he show any interest... particular interest in Natalee as you're sitting
at the table?
Ruth McVey:
Not at all source
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Claire Fierman:
(to, how closely have you been following the investigation) I don‘t
know it‘s kind of hard to watch the news. I just prefer to hear things
from my friends and my family. It is hard to see things on TV because
it is an unusual situation. source
Claire Fierman: (to,
when was the last time that you saw Natalee) I was with Natalee during
the day, but I think we‘d rather keep this focused, if it‘s OK with you,
on all the support that we are getting in Mountain Brook in Birmingham.
source
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William Morris:
(to, what was his last memory of Natalee) Yes. Well, we had such
a great time on that trip. Being all together, being on the beach
together, eating dinner together. The whole trip, and we all had
so much fun. It was basically you know the time of our lives up until
the next morning when we found out that she wasn‘t there. So I just—we
had a great time together with Natalee and we‘re ready for her to come
back and have some more. source
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William Morris:
( to, you saw Natalee that last day) Yes, sir.
William Morris:
(to, was she was happy) Yes, she was definitely happy. source
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Claire Fierman:
(to, what is it like visiting the University where Natalee would have been
starting) Of course, it makes us so sad that she‘s not there, but it
doesn‘t mean that we haven‘t lost hope because I‘m planning on Natalee
coming to the University of Alabama with me and the rest of our friends.
source
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Claire Fierman:
(to, are people waiting, talking about Natalee)Yes, the school has
been absolutely unbelievably helpful, wanted to know what they can do for
Natalee‘s friends and family. Everyone, you know when we were at
orientation we were asked you know by people you know if we had heard anything,
if everything was OK. And I mean it‘s amazing to feel support in
Tuscaloosa, Alabama. You know... ... everybody was wondering
how we were. source
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Francis Ellen Byrd:
(to, what were you told by the witness to Natalee getting in the car)
We were just told that he saw Natalee get into a car and that he.. we are
able to uh.. he was able to describe to uh Natalee's mom and step dad,
later, what the car looks like and how that was able to help them track
it down. Because, he remembered what the car looks like.
source
Note: This is different
than when Beth quoted other students (scroll down to read) saying they
were able to identify Joran by name.
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Ruth McVey:
(to question, where was Joran sitting at the casino) At the same table,
I was sitting next to him.
Interviewer:
What did you think of him?
Ruth McVey:
The normal teenaged boy.
Interviewer: Nothing
at all.
Ruth McVey:
Nothing.
Interviewer:
Nothing in particular?
Ruth McVey: Nothing
at all. source
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Alana Jordan: (talking
about the chaparones) The only two reasons they were there is, one,
in case of a medical emergency, and two, to distribute passports ... to
make sure we didn't lose them. But, the chaperones frequently went
beyond the call of duty. They stayed up for us, lost sleep, made sure we
were all right. Despite the fact their role was minimal, they really stepped
it up and really went beyond what they were required to do. source
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Katherine Weatherly:
(to question, were you there that night at Carlos 'n Charlie?) Yes,
ma`am. I was there. source
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Katherine Weatherly:
(Did
she see Joran van der Sloot at CnC's?) Actually...I was with Natalee.
We were all together, dancing, and Natalee was only with Joran towards
the end of the night. But, I did pass him. I didn`t really even notice
him. And that was it. source
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Katherine Weatherly:
(referring
to Joran) I didn`t see him later in the night with Natalee. I saw him
in passing, and that was it. source
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Katherine Weatherly:(responding
to question, "How was Natalee that evening?") She appeared fine. She
wasn`t acting out of control or anything so... source
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Katherine Weatherly:
(Did
Katherine see Natalee when she left CnCs?) No, I did not see her. source
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Katherine Weatherly:(Had
Katherine already left prior to Natalee?) Well, Carlos and Charlie`s
closed at 1:00 o`clock, and when it closed, everyone was getting in taxis
at the same time and it was really chaotic. And I got in a taxi, and everyone
just thought that everyone would get home Ok. There were so many people
leaving at one time, it was just... source
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Claire Fierman: (Did
Claire see Joran that evening?) Did I see him? ... No, I`ve never seen
him. I wasn`t at Carlos and Charlie`s, and I`d never seen him. I`ve never
seen him, ever. source
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Claire Fierman: (When
did Claire realize Natalee was not there the next day?) The next morning,
I was on an earlier flight than everybody else, and Francis Ellen, one
of our friends, came and found me and Katherine in the airport and told
us that Natalee wasn`t flying home, that they did not know where she was.
source
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Katherine Weatherly:(When
did Katherine realize Natalee was not there the next day?) I realized
the same time as Claire, actually, but, at the time, we thought maybe she
slept in. We didn`t... I mean, we were very concerned, but we thought she
would be coming home. We... well, we had to get on the plane immediately
after that, and we got on the plane... source
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Katherine Weatherly:
(Had
anyone tried to call Natalee?) Oh, yes. People... we were getting...
her cell phone was in her room at the time. She didn`t take her cell phone
with her. source
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Katherine Weatherly:(Did
Katherine try to call Natalee before she got on the plane?) No. We
knew that she didn`t have her cell phone with her, so there was no point
in calling, If she... because... well, they... I wasn`t there
when they realized that she was missing. I was told in the airport. But,
I know that other people did, and... but realized that she didn`t have
her phone with her. source
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Katherine Weatherly:
(Why would anybody know Natalee didn`t have her phone with her?) Because
they saw her phone in the hotel room. She hadn`t taken it out with her
that the night. source
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Katherine Weatherly:(Did
other people try to call Natalee on her cell phone?) No. Well, no.
They... no. They didn`t. Everyone knew, when the next morning that
her cell phone was there. I was just saying that we would have tried to
call her. I don`t know if people actually did try and call her or not,
but the people that were in her room knew that she hadn`t had her phone
that night. source
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Jay Weinacker: We
went to check in for our airplane, and she wasn't there, and she's been
missing since then. source
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Haleigh Uncapheris
the mountain Brook student who stayed behind with the chaparone and joined
in the search for Natalee. She was with Natalee the night that
she disappeared. She was interviewed on June 9. Original source
link is inactive: cloned source
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Haliegh Uncapher: (talking
about the 11th day of the search) I think people are still hopeful.
And they‘re trying not to focus on whether it is going to be a happy ending
or not. I think we‘re really just trying to find Natalee and get
some closure to this case. cloned
source
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| Interviewer:
You spoke last night—You talked about the fact that they met the night
before she disappeared. But we‘re hearing now that they met in the
casino.
Haliegh Uncapher:
(describing the casino where Joran and Natalee met) Well, the casino
and lobby and all that is kind of separate from the sleeping quarters or
whatever. But you have to walk from where your room is, across the
way, and then there is a bar on your right. And then, as you keep
walking straight, it comes right into the hotel, the main hotel, where
the lobby is and the casino and everything is just right there. And
so, the main hotel kind of... Oh, I was just going to say, the hotel
surrounds the pool and the bar, kind of. cloned
source
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Haliegh Uncapher: (Responding
to question, do locals coming into these bars trying to pick up tourists)
I mean, locals are everywhere you go, because they‘re just like you, trying
to enjoy themselves as—just as much so. They were—you know, were
pretty much wherever we were, not necessarily only where we were.
But everywhere we went, you know, were locals. cloned
source
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Haliegh Uncapher: (Had
Natalee talked to her about being intimate with Joran?) She had never
talked to me about it. I have not talked to any of her friends.
And from what I know of, they didn‘t know. They only knew him from
Sunday night when—at Carlos ‘n Charlie‘s. cloned
source
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Haliegh Uncapher:
(talking about the search) Well, normally, they‘ve been searching from
the lighthouse to the Alta Vista, which is a church which they think that
Natalee may be. And then this area, there is just a lot of brush
and just a lot of ground to cover and also little homes that we may think
that, you know, people don‘t have cable or—we can‘t imagine people not
knowing about this, but we are just trying to go out there just to see
if, you know, people haven‘t heard about it. cloned
source
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Haliegh Uncapher:(about
her friends from Mountain Brook) I just think we‘re all just
really worried now. You know, it‘s our 11th day. And we‘re
all just anxious to find out more news. And, yes, that‘s about—just
really worried. cloned source
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From Inside Edition broadcast March 1,
2006 Transcript
(Transcribed by internet poster, Heli, from television broadcast)
Excerpts from an interview
with students, after ABC had aired a casino surveillane camera video of
the evening of the disappearance, along with an interview with Joran, where
he spoke about that evening.
Dark haired girl: (unidentified)
She wasn't being irresponsible, she wasn't out of control. Source
Holly Brown: (was
in the casino surveillance camera group) We went to dinner at the little
hotel restaurant, and we went to the casino. Source
Holly Brown: And I
can remember walking up and meeting Joran, and it's just creepy to look
back, and you can remember vividly that exact night, especially seeing
the surveillance camera. It was really hard because it was like that night
in action. Source
Holly Brown: It's
really easy for him to go on the air, and say what he wants, and what he
thinks is going to get him out of trouble, with Natalee being unable to
defend herself, and she can't say anything about it. Source
Mary Conyers:
(speaking of Joran's characterization of Natalee's behavior) Natalee
is not ever, has never been, that type of person. Source
Ali Anderson: I think
that all of us think that it could have just as well been us, pretty much
every day. Source
Claire Fearman: I
think it's really important for people to learn what we've had to learn.
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The Mountain
Brook Interview
We transcribed the video
of Greta Van Susteren interview of
three students in Mountain Brook at the "Wall of Hope." It has numerous
interesting quotes (some which conflict with student interviews given on
other shows) . It is worth reading as a stand alone interview
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The
Alana Jordan internet postings
We have compiled and formatted
all of Alana Jordan's
internet postings. This is worth printing out and reading with
a cup of coffee (it's a 24 page printed document) It is loaded with
statements which contradict other students and even herself, plus it totally
refutes the very strange "Beth's Tour of Natalee's room" interview with
Greta Van Susteren, where Greta was shown a room, identified as Natalee's,
which opened onto the beach through sliding glass doors. We also
explore this revealing refutation in detail in a bulletin board discussion,
False Natalee's
room discussion |
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Extrapolated Mountain Brook student
statements:
Many statements can be deduced
or extracted from statements by others who made statements where they were
quoting what various students told them. What follows are quotes derived
other than by conventional means.
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Unknown Mountain Brook
students: (from Beth Twitty was told "through some of
her classmates"). And this young man had spent time with these
children. He had been with them for a couple of days. They knew this young
man. They knew his first name. They had spent hours with him. So it wasn't
a secret. It wasn't a secret who she left with. source
Unknown Mountain Brook
students: (from Beth Twitty discussing statements from classmates.
Did her friends say they saw any problems with Joran) Absolutely
not. source
Unknown Mountain Brook
students: (from Beth Twitty discussing her conversation with classmates.
Did they say Joran have alcohol or drug problems) Absolutely
not.
source
Unknown Mountain Brook
students: (from Beth Twitty's interview with classmates. Did they
think Joran was a nice kid.) Absolutely, yes. source
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Unidentified male (student?):
When
we were watching roulette, Natalee and her friends came, and I -- while
I was there, I saw that she came and asked if -- what Joran was going to
do tonight, to make sure that he went to Carlos 'n Charlie's that night.
The
source is a CNN transcript where this "male" appeared in a video segment.
He was not identified as student only a male. source
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Female Mountain Brook
student: (daughter of Mountain Brook internet poster, arbeej,
as quoted by mother). She (daughter) was leaving the bar with
two friends, and they were right behind another group.She (daughter)
called to Natalee and asked if she "wanted to walk with them." Natalee
cheerfully said "No," she "would catch up to the group right ahead and
walk with them." source
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It is the internet posting mother (arbeej) quoting the daughter, who is
quoting other students.]
Unknown students [hearsay]:
(daughter
quotes other students as saying) Natalie passed them on the
road a short while later. She was a passenger in a taxi with another person.
She clearly did not know she was in danger; she leaned out the window and
shouted something like "Aruba! Woohoo!" source
Unknown students [hearsay]:
(daughter
quotes other students as saying) None of those who passed Natalee had
the impression that Natalee was falling-down-drunk or anything like that.
source
Unknown student [hearsay]:
(this
is a quote of the mother, arbeej, quoting her daughter and quoting another
student) Afterward, outside, my daughter talks to her and Joran
is beside her. Although she's described as having unusually heavy eyelids,
she does not seem otherwise impaired. She's calm, quiet; does not introduce
or acknowledge Joran. Some brief time later, another student sees her back
at C&C's, emerging with Deepak, who's supporting and guiding her by
the elbow. She looks a bit out of it (he thought intoxicated) and as if
she might be unable to walk without that support from Deepak. source
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| Unknown students:
(from David Kock, Satish's attorney, referring to court documents, quoting
students, some distance away from Carlos 'n Charlies, speaking to Natalee)
Why doesn't she get out of the car. She said, "no," that she was
going to drive around. sourcecloned
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| FBI student interview
notes:
for Madison Whatley, Nancy Watson, Elizabeth Cain, Brian Riser and Haley
Uncapher.
Click
here to see images of the actual FBI notes
Source
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Parts of FBI Transcripts
Here are screen captures from Fox News which showing portions alleged
to be the FBI transcripts of the interrogations of two girls - Katherine
Madison Whatley and Lee Broughton.
Whatley:
On Sunday night Whatley advised a group of friends ate dinner. Holloway
had a couple of alcoholic drinks at dinner. Holloway was drinking Red Fires
which had 151 in them. Although she had a couple of drinks at dinner Holloway
"was not out of her mind."
While at dinner Holloway was making a bet with who Holloway "would hook
up with" Sunday night. Whatley advised she did not actually make a bet
was just talking amongst other girls.
Whatley thought that Holloway would hook up with Kevin Broday because
Holloway was flirting with him.
After dinner, Whatley went to the (?) casino with Holloway. Broughton,
Merrill, McViegh, amd (?????) McViegh had lost money at the
casino during the trip and they went to the casino to help McViegh win
(some??) money ......... They sat at a blackjack table. Holloway
was not playing blackjack but was hovering from student to student. Whatley
................. at the blackjack table while they were playing.
Lee Broughton
Broughton and Holloway were assigned the same hotel room at the Holiday
Inn. The daily routine for Broughton and Holloway was to get an alcohol
drink and go to the ocean around 10:00 AM in the morning. At around 5:00
PM they would return to thier room for naps. At 6:00PM Broughton and Holloway
would get ready to go out to get dinner. After dinner Broughton and Holloway
would go outto Bars. Saturday, May 28, 2005, Holloway became very intoxicated
and eventually had to be escorted back to her room by (Kevin Broday?).
During the morning hours on Sunday, May 29, 2005 Holloway started drinking
mixed drinks called " Red Fires" The drinks contain Bicardi 151 and Diet
Coke. Holloway became intoxicated and her friends told her to slow down.
Holloway and Broughton continued to drink throughout the day. They went
to dinner between 6:00 and 7:00 PM. After dinner Holloway and Broughton
went to the Hotel Casino to watch Ruth McVay gamble/
While at the casino, Broughton and Holloway (came upon?) Joran (Last
name unknown) Holloway had met Joran earlier that day on the beach. At
about (xxxPM) Holloway (switched to?) a drink containing Vodka.
While sitting in the Casino a friend of Joran(LNU) arrived. Broughton (does
not?) know the friend's name.xxxxxxxxx remember him to be fat and Chinese
or Hawaiian looking.
At approximately (xxxxxPM) Holloway, Broughton, xxx and others? went
to the hotel by the pool. Approximately five minutes later when Joran LNU
was leaving Holloway asked if Joran LNU was planning to meet them later
at Carlos and Charlies. (He said it was really dead on Sunday nights???)
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From America's most wanted
broadcast June 3, 2006
Announcer:
For the first time, her best freind Lee Broughton is coming forward to
tell her story, she was with Natalee that night
Lee Broughton:
For the first two motnhs I would cry and have nightmares and the flashbacks
were so vivid. The flashbacks come when I'm in a party scene, the
emotional pain about Natalee was too great to do interviews before. I was
so hurt to have Natalee gone. After I saw the shows a lot, I decided to
do this one I saw how some shows have been able to find people.
We were excited to be away
from home on this gorgeous island. I was with Natalee most of the time,
we thought it was a nice safe island..we thought everybody was good and
friendly and mostly everyone was.
Announcer: Lee,
Natalee and her friends went dancing at a popoular night spot on the night
Natalee disappeared
Lee Broughton:
: I know for a fact
she had never met him prior to that night, we thought he was a very nice
young man, we had a good impression of him. We asked if he was going out
that night
Announcer: Lee
went back to the hotel room at closing and went to bed, she didn't know
Natalee had left with Joran and his friends.
Lee Broughton:We assumed
she had slept in a bed with our other girlfriends, we got on the phone
and dialed our other friends in other rooms, we thought she was with so
and so. I
felt nausesous, I started bawling, I had to go tell the police that were
in the hotel a description of Natalee and what we had been doing. That's
when I started getting really really worried ,
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