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Announcing -New Natalee Holloway Book released online:  Natalee Holloway Missing in Aruba
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Contents Preface Missing in Aruba -1 Search   Suspects - 2 Joran van der Sloot -3 Family Posse - 4
Jossy Mansur - 5 Suspects Released - 6 Boycott of Aruba - 7 Dr. Phil & Deepak  8 The Reward - 9 FBI Involvement - 10
Red Bull & Alcohol-11 Essays & Theories -12 Author  in Aruba - 13 Forum views - 14 At the Holiday Inn - 15 Selected Essays - 16
New leads - 17 Joe Tacopina - 18 Update - 19 Mother's Book - 20 Peter R. de Vries - 21 Body found? - 22
Rearrested -23 Joran Confession - 24 Psychics Frauds -25 Blog Perspective - 26 Latest News - 27
Rumors, theories and speculation -  "facts not in evidence." essay,

 by Sam Redman



In order to present the whole picture, this section is for "Unsubstantiated Information" in the case against Joran Van der Sloot.  This page is for rumors, possible witnesses or any information advanced (written about) in one of many forums (or media news vehicles), but not yet in evidence.  Everything here has been theorized by some as being factual or having a possibility of becoming evidence, but just doesn't measure up yet to evidentiary standards.


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See the The Evidence line - for "facts in evidence."

If you got to this page without seeing the "evidence line", you should click the link to read the actual evidence known to date, which could be presented by the prosecution against Joran Van der Sloot in an actual trial.   The view is from the prosecution's perspective.

Joran Interview 
Joran Van der Sloot was interviewed in Holland by "A Current Affair" television show. 
Here is a true unedited, uncensored interview transcript:  Joran interview (uncensored)
Here is the edited and censored broadcast interview:  Censored edited interview

Sam Redman's Reasons for Suspicion essay
Redman also provides an essay discussing valid Reasons for Suspicion, which expresses logical arguments that Joran Van der Sloot and the Kalpoe Brothers should be suspected of wrong doing.  It is a "must read" along with the other information. 

Sam Redman's The CrackHouse Theory essay
Sam Redman has prepared a fanciful essay on The Crackhouse Theory.  It is a good fictional tale, but one which might explain the mystery to some.  This is an example of wild speculation.

Mountain Brook student quotes
All of the Mountain Brook student quotes (from lots of interview sources) Some are from the live televised interviews (substantiated).  Others are from claimed quotes in newspaper articles, whose authors say they are from interviews, but that can't be substantiated.  Lots of good reading here:  Student quotes


Only evidence can be used in a trial.

A  judge on a Dutch three judge panel trial can only consider facts in evidence.   A judge must exclude all irrelevant information or circumstances, which do not speak to the specifics of a crime and the culpability of the accused.  Facts not in evidence and most speculations are irrelevant, but are presented here because some of this information and speculation might eventually become probative (able to be used as evidence) if  specific substantiation or proof can be uncovered.



Unsubstantiated information

Many of the following are interrelated and involve one or more of the others.  They are presented separately, because each represents its own set of circumstances, but some discussions will mention the relativity of the related other subjects.

1.  Sexual assault
 

That Joran sexually assaulted an unconscious Natalee

Dave Holloway has made public statements that Joran admitted to sexual assault.  Beth Twitty has made similar assertions.  It is not clear if they are saying that this was an admission made in an interrogation or something that was overheard by another prisoner or whether it came from another source (such as an internet theory?), or whether they were referring to the night of the Twitty (and friends, along with two Aruban police) visit to the Van der sloot home where Joran was said by some to have admitted to having had sex with Natalee. 

Validity:  Being drunk,  does not necessarily make an individual unable to carry on a conversation or to make decisions. Having sex with a drunken female is not prima facie evidence of rape (or sexual assault). If that were so then there would be a million rapes every Saturday night all over the US. The legal criteria is whether someone is too incapacitated to be able to give consent. 

About detainment specifications.  An aruban attorney unrelated to the case stated that in the detainment specifications were suspicion of murder, kidnapping and sexual assault of an unconscious person.   However, attaching significance to this is not necessarily well founded.  This is because, when a suspect is brought in under Aruban law they have to detain them with the full extent of what eventually might be charged, even though no evidence might be known. It is a seemingly strange way (the reverse to the US system), but that is the way it is done. Therefore, they let their imaginations run wild and the detainment description is written for a wide range of things as in this case, perhaps from murder to kidnapping and even sexual assault with an unconscious person, if they can imagine that, but that is not an indication of a real suspicion of anything or any facts in evidence.

Often the prosecutor and sometimes even local Aruban attorneys incorrectly state these in a media announcements as "charges," because of language difficulties. So, it could be that this wide range of detainment conditions is the source of the rumors about the sexual assault as those conditions for detainment have been leaked and misinterpreted by some (maybe the Twittys) as being evidence of crimes.

The first mention of this came from Beth Twitty. 
 

In a news report  dated 07-14

http://www.kfmb.com/story.php?id=17702

The mother of Natalee Holloway said Wednesday July 14, in an interview  said police told her that van der Sloot admitted to them he had engaged in "sexual acts" with Holloway the night of her disappearance.

"I believe that, if it happened, it was against her will," Twitty said.

Then this was refueled later from Jug Twitty and from Dave Holloway
 

August 8th  on Hannity and Colmes with regard to the alleged "sexual assault" by Joran on Natalee

Jug Twitty:  "It's documented" the sexual assault by Joran; We've known that since the first night... I'm saying that Joran admitted that he committed a sexual act to Natalee against her will; I'm saying that on the record. I didn't say anything before, because we wanted the aruban LE to do their job. Statements have been given that omitted some of those things, that's serious

Jug Twitty : "How about I tell you he said it when I was there that night, he didn't say it to me but to witnesses there that night. It's also documented in other other places."

Then the next day this is what Dave said:

Fox Hannity & Colmes, August 9th with Dave Holloway

Sean: I guess the biggest development we had yesterday Dave... I am a father, I know this is hard for you. Apparently, you guys have had information for some time that you believe that authorities have known and that there was admission of forced sexual contact with your daughter.

Dave: Well, I would rather not get into any details. But, we do know that Joran admitted to some sexual…aggravated sexual assault or whatever the term was used. We were aware of that and he was behind bars at the time.

However, in a interview on August 26, Dave Holloway talked about the statement that Joran made on the night when the Twitty's questioned Joran at his home (the night following her disappearance). His conclusion  was somewhat different than his earlier statements.  Dave said then that he understood that Joran stated that had sex, but that it was consensual. Dave said that to his knowledge this was the origin of the claims that Joran had admitted to sexual assault. 

You can draw your own conclusions from these statements. Some people have speculated that this admission, combined with the Deepak email (see entry below), where he talked about Natalee falling asleep, caused some to conclude that Joran had sexual relations with an unconscious Natalee. And perhaps that might be the reason for accusations of assault.

See the entry number 7 (below) in these unsubstantiated statements regarding Joran's confession (actually an accusation of Deepak).  In this unverified statement Joran is supposed to have surmised that Deepak raped Natalee.

2. The Deepak "Confession" 
 

That Deepak confessed to sexual assault in an interview

Although newspaper articles and television shows have led with the headline that Deepak Kalpoe confessed to sexually assaulting Natalee and also accused his brother, Satish Kalpoe, and his friend, Joran Van der Sloot, of also having sexual intercourse with her, there is more to this story than sensational headlines and misleading soundbites.  This stems from a very questionable "interview" which, although recorded in August, was not released to the Aruban legal investigators. It was held secretively and then aired publicly for the first time in September on an American television show, "The Dr Phil Show."   While it may not be of any evidentiary value, Aruban authorities would like to examine it.  As yet it has not been submitted to them.

This is discussed in detail in a separate page which describes:

a. The circumstances of how the tape was made, 
b. The transcript of the "interview," 
c. Discussions about its validity and authenticity
d. Deepak's attorney's answer 
e. Response of Aruban Police Chief about efforts to get tape.
f.  Additional accusation (of Joran) said to be on tape (not aired yet).

Click to read: Deepak confession interview

Links are on that page to bring you back to this page and other pages

3.   Gardener's testimony

That Joran and Kalpoes were seen at 2:30 am.

A witness known as to the press as "the gardener" presented testimony before the judge of instruction that at 2:30 am on the morning of the Monday, May 30, 2005, he saw a car matching the description of Deepak Kalpoe's automobile in front of the Racquet Club which is across from the Marriott Beach (Palm Beach). He states that he saw all three "suspects" in the car at that time.  If this information is correct then the statements of the Kalpoes and Joran would have been refuted because the Kalpoes say they were home at that time and Joran says he  still at the beach.

Validity: According to statements from the Kalpoe attorneys, the time presented by the gardener was in direct conflict with facts already in evidence, namely the logging on of the Kalpoe brothers' PC at home and of the evidence from mobile phone grids showing location of  cellphone calls from Joran which would have placed him at the Palm Beach (also known as Marriott beach).

Many thought (even hoped) that the testimony of the gardener would land the Kalpoes back in jail. Upon questioning it turns out the opposite. Even the judge reprimanded the gardener for not being consistent in his answers.

However, if you see Joran's statement version 2 (see Evidence Line) and you consider along with that, the unverified Joran confession (or Joran accusation of Deepak), which is entry number 6 on this page,  then that would mean that the computer data is not valid (Satish could have been on the computer, while Deepak was out in the car).  If that were the case then maybe the three in the car were Deepak, and two other people (not Joran or Satish, since we have evidence they were both at home).

4.  Date rape drug
 
That Joran (or Kalpoes) gave Natalee a  "date rape" drug

Some have theorized that Joran and the Kalpoes have used date rape drugs in the past.  They describe how on personal websites Joran was making references to having used date rape drugs to seduce girls in bars.  This theory says that perhaps Joran and the Kalpoes followed a pattern of  finding American tourist girls on their last night in Aruba and at closing time slipping them a date rape drug knowing that they wouldn't have any recollection of the later sexual assault events of the evening (until perhaps back in their home city in the US).
Validity:  While an interesting theory without having a body to check for residual drugs or other supporting evidence this would not be able to be presented in a trial.

5.  Kidnapping- phony taxi
 

That Natalee was tricked. Thinking Kalpoe car  a taxi.
Some witnesses saw Deepak "steering" Natalee from the Carlos 'n Charlies bar.  Some people have theorized that it was out of character for Natalee to depart with strangers unless she thought she was in a taxi.  This "phony taxi" theory is also coupled with the concept of the suspects using a date rape drug.
Validity:  Satish Kalpoe's attorney stated that in the prosecutor's file, which he was permitted to see that the Kalpoe car with Joran and Natalee in the back seat stopped a short distance from Carlos 'n Charlies and that several Mountain Brook students (fellow traveler of Natalee) asked Natalee to get out of the car and go with them.  In their sworn statements the other students said that Natalee replied negatively and said that she was going to go for a ride with the three guys.  If this is true then at that point Natalee was going voluntarily with Joran and the Kalpoes.

6.  The Deepak emails
 

That Deepak wrote emails to a friend describing the events
More to come on this

Link to the "Deepak e-mail"

http://scrux.com/natalee/deepakemail.htm

Deepak said in that unverified  Natalee was "very drunk" while still in C&C.

In addition Deepak susposedly states that:

"so after like 10 min my friend is telling me that natalee fell asleep i said you kidding just wake her up and tell ask her if its holiday"

Validity:  No way to verifiy the legitimacy of this email.  If it is true there might be information here which could provide some clues.

7.  Joran's confession (or accusation)
 

That Joran implicated Deepak in a "confession."

Aruban newspaper Diario published, what the newspaper says is, a signed police interview (not by Joran, but by a policemen whose signatures are not shown) on June 13 with Joran van der Sloot in which van der Sloot says Deepak Kalpoe raped, killed, and burried Natalee Holloway.

The Diario had been reporting on this document for some time but were been accused by competing local media for making it up. The item was published verbatim. Jossy Manur assures and claims that it is a direct copy of the police document, obtained through one of his sources. It has not been independently verified.
 

Translation of Declaration from Dutch: The suspect J.A.P. (Joran) van der Sloot walked with us (the police) a little bit further on and he declared to have suspicions that the suspect D. Kalpoe did bury the girl there somewhere.

According to the suspect J.A.P. van der Sloot, the suspect D. Kalpoe had returned to the girl after having left her sleeping on the beach. To our question to the suspect J.A.P. van der Sloot what he thought had happened between the girl Natalee Holloway and the suspect D. Kalpoe, he declared that he thought that the suspect D. Kalpoe raped and killed the girl.

Thus written by us, under oath made under our testimony, closed and signed in Oranjestad on June 13th, 2005.

The signature is obscured.

Validity:  No one has seen this "document," except the newspaper editor Jossy Mansur (El Diario).  Evidently a copy (or translation of it) was given to Beth Twitty who took it with her on a trip to Alabama.   Joran's attorney said that it is possible Joran might have said something to the interrogators like this, but only in an off handed manner, just out of frustration of them asking him what he thinks might have happened.  He said that Joran has never offerered or maintained the position that Deepak had anything to do with Natalee's disappearance.  Further, it is against the law for the prosecution or police to allow any interrogation documents to be made public, so the credibility of this being an actual police statement is questionable. 
 

Here is where Eduardo Mansur says he got it:
On the Rita Cosby show on MSNBC,

COSBY:...And joining me now from Aruba, Eduardo Mansur with the “Diario” newspaper. Eduardo, how did you get this document, to begin with?

EDUARDO MANSUR, “DIARIO”: OK, outside of the newspaper, we have a mailbox that people bring us all kinds of information, and they dropped it in there.

COSBY: Do you believe it‘s credible? Do you believe it‘s legitimate?

MANSUR: Oh, yes. It‘s got signatures of four detectives, whom I know, so we know it‘s credible.- http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8959602

When asked about this statement in an interview with Greta Van Susteran David Kock, Satish Kalpoe's attorney responded with this:
 

David Kock speaking about what Joran has said: "...he said, yes, something must have gone wrong with the girl. And then when they asked him, What do you think, and he says, Well, I think maybe after I got — because that was at a time when he was stating that Deepak came and picked him up here and dropped him at home, which was also impossible because of the records afterwards, but at that time, he did not know that. 

Maybe Joran was actually telling the truth in his second version  (after telling the Holiday Inn lie). See version 2 in the Evidence Line page.  In Joran's second version, he said  that Deepak came back picked him up to the beach and took him home. Notice that Joran only changed his story when the police interrogators showed him the computer records (and  showed him Deepak's statement that he was home on the computer.)  Further, news reports at the time said that the interrogator allowed Deepak and Joran to be together in an interrogation room  which was highly criticized in the press.   Reportedly, after  they showed them each other's statements,  was said that Deepak got angry with Joran about Joran's version 2 and emphatically told him that the computer records showed he was home. Joran then changed his statement to version 3.  Very strange.

Perhaps,  the police have concluded (as David Kock said) that the only proof that Joran's version 2 didn't happen is those computer records. If the computer records) are the only proof that version 2 isn't factual, maybe it is the truth.  Maybe the computer records were altered during the ten days prior to arrest.  Maybe, it was Satish on the computer.  If so, then it could be deduced that  Deepak went back and picked up Joran (and then did other things). 

So, with some simple deductive reasoning, the alibi for Deepak goes away and now the Joran accusation takes on much more significance. Maybe Joran heard Deepak confess this whole scenario to him during the ten days before they were incarcerated.   Maybe that is why we saw the police taking Joran out to the beach on two occasions for an expansion of his accusation.  Maybe Deepak after taking Joran home picked up a couple of friends who went back to the beach.  Maybe they gang raped Natalee, killed her and then buried her body.

Some convincing substantiation of Joran's account:
 

The Twittys and the Holloways when they were called into a meeting on June 10 with the FBI who told them that the case was solved. Then they told them all had been retracted:

To get the feel of their frustration, note this excerpt from an interview on July 12 on MSNBC about those June 10 events, with Paul Reynolds (Beth's brother). 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8551822/ 
 

Quote: 
SCARBOROUGH: Did any government authorities ever tell you that there was a confession in this case regarding Natalee? 

PAUL REYNOLDS, UNCLE OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: I know that my sister had a meeting with the FBI June 10, Friday. And from that meeting, she became convinced that Natalee was no longer alive. She called her mother and told her that. And our family was—was—began the grieving process.

You know, we were told the report would come out the next day. Later that night, we saw the reports that confessions had been made, that something bad had happened. Shortly thereafter, it was retracted. The next morning, there was a report that said Natalee was confirmed dead. And these reports came from the deputy commissioner. They came from the spokesperson from the Ministry of Justice. And then, all of a sudden, these statements and these confessions just disappeared. 

SCARBOROUGH: And wait a second. I mean, these confessions were so rock solid that you actually had the FBI coming to you, coming to your family, Natalee's family, saying, we are sorry to tell you this, but there has been a confession. One of these boys has confessed, and Natalee is no longer alive. 

How do you pull something like that back off the table? Have you had or has your sister had or has anybody in the family had any explanation from Aruban officials whatever happened to this confession, where they buried it? 

REYNOLDS: I am not aware of any follow-up information. You know, this seemed to disappear from sight, these confessions did  At the time, we thought that because the investigation is kept secret, we thought it was ongoing, and maybe they just didn't want to release it officially at that time. But, as we see that the appeals, the hearings are showing there's no evidence, but yet we have these confessions, it doesn't make any sense. {there's more, but snipped here, click on link above for full transcript}


The Twittys simply were thrown a curve on this. My guess is that a decision was made to bury this and trap the Kalpoes (and probably the FBI was in on it). So on June 11 the investigators decided to take another approach and perhaps they invited Joran to "appear to" retract that statement and "change" his version of events (to match Deepak's story).

More to come

8.  Joran's changing stories
 

That Joran has told 22 different accounts of that evening.

This has mainly come from statements by Beth Twitty and has been repeated by many media commentators. Generally, the logic advanced here is that anyone telling that many stories must be quilty of causing harm to Natalee.

Validity:  It maybe that the whole 22 versions recounting has been a "spin" done with Beth Twitty (maybe she was helping the investigation knowingly) as  an effort by the police to take the emphasis away from the 3 versions which Joran told.  This would be because of the significance of Joran's version 2 (see the Evidence Line) in this investigation. The following is a quote from Greta Van Susterern:

From Greta wire: "Because of the lack of information from the police or prosecutor in Aruba, there are many "stories" running around masquerading as facts. The safest way to address the "facts" is to assign the author rather than vouch for them myself. One of the conflicting facts is how many statements and/or stories Joran van der Sloot (search) has made.

Joran van der Sloot's lawyer says Joran has made 23 statements, but only three different stories are contained within the 23 statements. The three separate stories were made early on and then, apparently, per the lawyer, Joran has repeated that third story 20 more times in written declarations.

I don't know if it much matters whether there are three different stories with 20 consistent statements to the third story or if there are 23 different statements/stories. Once you have two materially different statements, you have a liar on your hands.

But a lie is not enough to prove a crime occurred and that the person who lied committed it. You need proof of a crime — here that someone actually died and that it was at the hands of another (murder.) A lie proves you have a liar on your hands — and of course legitimately raises high suspicion — but is not enough to convict of a crime of murder. This is why this prosecutor faces a big challenge in this investigation. If she believes a murder has been committed, she must prove the actual murder (not a disappearance alone) and who did it."

It could be that the police have put out the 22 versions story to cloud the signifcance or the actuality that there were only 3 versions, because understanding that the difference between version 2 and version 3 might be the crux of solving the case.

Note that in the Evidence line we show and discuss the 3 versions of Joran's statements.  If version 2 is correct, then perhaps the unverified Joran accusation about Deepak (see the number 6 discussion on this page) was really made (it fits with version 2).  It could have been that the Twitty's were telling about the 22 versions as a red herring to take emphasis off of the 3 versions in order to make the Kalpoes more at ease while free.  It could be that the police have always believed version 2 and the so-called confession (accustation) and have been investigating that way all along.  Go back and read above,  the Joran confession (accusation) discussion (number 6) .

More to come

9.  Body disposed in landfill
 

That suspects gathered at the landfill for body disposal

This was quite a story where a witness came forward and made statements that on a day shortly after the disappearance  he saw a blond haired body being disposed of in the local garbage landfill by people meeeting the descriptions of Joran, the Kalpoes, along with Paulus Van der sloot, Joran's father.  Even a pickup truck was described and a license plate given.

Validity:  The witness has changed his story several times.  The pickup truck was proven to be in another location.  Bon Dia (Aruban news source) says that the suspects were being interrogated at the same time as the witness says they were dumping a body.  The landfill was searched several times although the search was eventually called off without it being fully explored.

More to come



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