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Censored (plus cut & pasted) Joran van der Sloot interview transcript 
on "A Current Affair"  aired Monday, September 26, 2005  (updated October 5, adding snippets from Nancy Grace airing).

A hat tip goes to jennym (poster on courttv.com message boards) for her first draft (she did the hard work), which we have used (with her permission) edited and corrected (where necessary)  from our own tivo copy and other sources (many snippets were added from other cable shows of parts not shown in orginal ACA broadcast).

Also, a second "A Current Affair," broadcast  Sept 27, had more of Beth's reaction: Second Current Affair show



Tim Green, host: Joran speaks and Beth reacts. For the time being he is safely back in Holland. Tracked down by "A Current Affair" he has had to answer some questions.

Video of Joran van der Sloot and another reporter holding microphone out (looks as if on the college campus, outside) 

Joran van der Sloot: I didn't have any feelings for her because I only met her that night. I didn't know her before then.

Beth Twitty: (he's) cold, very condescending.

Tim Green: Almost 4 months. Her disappearance a mystery for millions. A law enforcement debacle for a tiny island. Horrific heartbreak for a brave and grieving mother.  Their trail of lies and their cold hearted refusal to find the just graduated Alabama teen contributed to the Holloway Family Summer of Despair. 

(video showing various shots of the boys being arrested, Natalee Holloway posters, Aruban police, Beth Twitty, etc.)

Tim Green voice-over: It took weeks, but finally Aruban legal authorities deemed it worthy to investigate and eventually incarcerate the young Van der Sloot and Satish and Deepak Kalpoe. (Shot of Beth Twitty, close-up, crying)  The Natalee Holloway case now appears to be as cold as the hearts of the three young men who can't get their stories straight.  Most in the media have given up, forgetting the pain of a mother who wants justice and wants answers.  But not this man. (video of Joran van der Sloot walking to class and reporter holding out microphone) 

to video of reporter at his own desk at "A Current Affair" studio.

Reporter: It was practically impossible to find Joran because that's a very common name in the Netherlands. Even harder was once we were leaving, Joran grabbed my arm (reporter grabs his own arm violently) and looked at me like he had second thoughts.  (no video of this arm grabbing)

Tim Brown: But "A Current Affair's" Jerry Wagsstaff  has found his man, thousands of miles away from Aruba, where the Dutch teenager is now enjoying something that would've been so precious to Natalee Holloway, starting college.

(video of Joran van der Sloot walking on campus, carrying a brown paper bag lunch, his two colored book bag, wearing plaid shirt)

Tim Brown: Jerry W, our producer, doggedly pursued Joran van der Sloot on his way to school. The interview was later shown to Natalee Holloway's mom, Beth Twitty, and contains a lot of info never heard before.

Graphics: "A Current Affair" World Exclusive: Joran Speaks

Harris voice over: The lies began the day after Natalee disappeared when Joran was brought in for questioning by police. His lie? That he and the Kalpoe Brothers had dropped Natalee off safely at the Holiday Inn. That lie caused 2 casino Security Guards to ge falsely arrested.

back to video of reporter and Joran van der Sloot.

Reporter: Why did you do that?

Joran van der Sloot: Well, I didn't really think something had happened to her and I don't think anyone in Aruba did, because it's the truth. Tourists come to Aruba. They come to have a good time and sometimes they don't show up for a night or 2 and then they come back to their hotel. I thought that was the case. The local police probably thought that was also the case. And I just hoped that she would show up.

Reporter: And what went through your mind when she didn't show up?

Joran van der Sloot: Well, when she didn't show up for the first couple of days I was like OK, but you know, maybe she's still with someone else. Then after a while, I,  we, ' cause there was 7 days in between when we gave our first witness statement and when we were arrested, and I was, I was just thinking. I thought about going to the police and telling them the truth. But I really couldn't because I'd lied to everybody. I lied to my parents, I lied to my friends and (shrugs).

Reporter: And so you are saying that lying is the worst part?

Joran van der Sloot: Yeah.

Reporter: But why did you lie that first time?

Joran van der Sloot: Well, I lied basically because I was scared, and that's, that's the truth.

Reporter: Right. You lied because you were scared?

Joran van der Sloot: Yes, because I didn't want to admit to leaving her at the beach. I know what I did was wrong and for lying I probably deserve to be in that jail for 3 months. But I didn't do anything against the law and they have to let you go. They have to let me go on with my life and I hope you guys let me go on with my life, too.

Reporter: Are you still a suspect?

Joran van der Sloot: Yes, I am a suspect.

Reporter: How does it feel to be a suspect?

Joran van der Sloot: It doesn't feel good and of course I hope that when the 30 days are up I hope I'm not a suspect anymore.

Tim Green: More of the interview and some of Beth's emotional reaction coming up.

Back to video of reporter with microphone in Joran van der Sloot's face:

Reporter: What was Natalee like?

Joran van der Sloot: I don't have really that many memories. I mean, I, I knew her for one night. I feel stupid, I feel horrible that I even went out that night without my father knowing. I should've just stayed home and this wouldn't have happened to me. It would've happened to another person. I just try to look at it like I was at the wrong place at the wrong time, maybe even with the wrong people. and I just hope that everything... the  truth comes out, that this comes to clarity in this case. 

Reporter: But do you understand, I mean, how can a girl just disappear?

Joran van der Sloot: I don't know. But, I think that's the million dollar question now.

Reporter:  So if you could do it over again, what would you do differently?

Joran van der Sloot: I would've just stayed home that night. I wouldn't have even gone out.  It was Natalee who asked me to go out with her. It was her that asked me to come to the club. And it was her that was yelling at me to go dance with her. And I said..umm. and I went to go drink something with my friends.

Reporter: Are you that irresistible? I mean, is that what?

Joran van der Sloot: No, no... I don't know. That's not... that's absolutely not what it's about. I don't know. When her parents showed up at my door with her picture, I didn't even know who Natalee Holloway was. I didn't even know her name.

Reporter: How could you not know her name if you just saw her the night before?

Joran van der Sloot: Well I saw her the night before, but it's not like I had a conversation with her for three hours. I mean, I,  we barely talked. She told me a couple of things about herself. She told me where she's going to school, where she's from.
 

Woman reporter, voice over: "Joran says she wanted to come with us, and that would be him and his buddies (shows same picture of the three guys), Deepak and Satish Kalpoe."

back to video of reporter and Joran van der Sloot:

Reporter: How drunk was she?

Joran van der Sloot: She had a lot to drink at Carlos and Charlie`s. She grabbed my hand and took me with her for me to take jelly shots off her. And afterwards, she asked me to buy a shot for her, buy her something to drink, which I did. And that`s all I saw that she drank. I didn`t see her drink anything else.

Woman reporter Voice over: Joran first met up with Natalee and her friends earlier in the day inside the Excelsior Casino at the Holiday Inn and he says the party had already started.

Back to reporter and Joran van der Sloot:

Joran van der Sloot: But from the day -- from the earlier, when I was with her friends at the Excelsior casino at the Holiday Inn, the whole group was already drinking from five in the afternoon. And I didn`t really see her at that moment. I didn`t even really notice her at that moment. But I guess they came here to have a good time, to celebrate their graduation also, and they might have all gone a little too far. I don`t know.

Reporter: What do you mean jelly shots with her? You mean off of her body?

Joran van der Sloot: Yes.

Reporter: How does that work? Can you tell me?

Joran van der Sloot:  I don`t know. I never did it myself before. She grabbed my hand and took me with her and asked if I wanted to take jelly shots off her.

Reporter: And how does it work? I don`t understand.

Joran van der Sloot: And she climbed on the bar. She laid down on the bar and she called over the bartender by name, and he got a jelly shot for her and then I took a jelly shot off her.

Reporter:: I don`t understand. Is it on her belly? Is it on...

Joran van der Sloot: On her belly, yes.

Reporter: On her belly button.

Joran van der Sloot: Yes.

Reporter: And then what do you do?

Joran van der Sloot: And then you basically lick it off."

Reporter: It's all her?

Joran van der Sloot: I'm not saying it's all her. I liked her. I thought she was very attractive.  I went out with her

Voice over: With Deepak at the wheel, according to Joran, and Satish, Natalee and Joran as passengers, they took off. Where to? The beach, according to Joran, where he and Natalee hung out, looking at the stars until Joran said he'd had enough.

back to reporter and Joran van der Sloot:

Reporter: How do you leave a girl on the beach?

Joran van der Sloot: Very irresponsible, I know. And that's the one thing I would like to take back. But at the time, at the time it just didn't seem wrong.

Reporter: And then what happened? You just said oh I've got to go home and study? I've gotta go home cause I have to get up for class tomorrow?

Joran van der Sloot: Uh.. I told her I had to go home. I had school the next day and I thought maybe she'd understand. She told me no she wanted me to stay there with her because the next day she was leaving and she wanted to stay there the whole night. I told her no I had to go.  I even, I even lifted her up to carry her back to her hotel. And she told me, put her down. I left her there. I sat down and started talking to her for a while and I called Deepak to ask him if he could come pick me up, which Deepak didn't do, but...

Reporter: Was she angry?

Joran van der Sloot: She wasn't ... she wasn't angry. If anything she was probably more.. I don't know... upset that I was leaving her there. And, I don't know what reaction she had. I don't know.

Reporter: How did you feel when you left her?

Joran van der Sloot: Well, at the time I didn't, I didn't feel it was a bad idea. At the time I really didn't.  It didn't seem wrong. It didn't seem... Of course, now I look back at it and I think, S###, I was... I'm an asshole. What did I do? But, there's nothing I can do about it now. If I had that moment back I would have made sure she got back to her hotel safely. But, I can't.. I can't change that now.

Reporter: Did you have sex with her that night?

Joran van der Sloot: That's, first of all, that is none of your business.

Reporter: It's just a question.

Joran van der Sloot: Yes, but it's absolutely none of your business.

Reporter: Well, what... I mean did anything else happen that night?

Joran van der Sloot: No.. well.. Yes. I, I, I kissed with her. But neither me, Deepak or Satish ever had sex with her and no one ever, ever said otherwise.

Reporter: And that's the last thing that happened?

Joran van der Sloot: Yes.

Reporter: What was the last thing she said to you?

Joran van der Sloot: Um, she didn't say any last thing to me. I said one last thing to her and it was "Bye."

Tim Green in studio: Back in a moment to continue our world exclusive interview with Joran van der Sloot, the last person to be seen with Natalee Holloway the night she disappeared. And Natalee Holloway's mom's, Beth's emotional reaction.
(commercial break)

Tim Green: Welcome back. We continue now with our world exclusive interview with Joran van der Sloot, the last person to be seen with Natalee Holloway in Aruba. The interview with our producer, JW, was taped near the college where van der Sloot is studying business in Holland.

back to video of reporter and Joran van der Sloot:

Reporter: Where is the body?

Joran van der Sloot: I don't know what happened. I don't know where she is.

Reporter: Where do you think she is?

Joran van der Sloot: I told you I am not going to speculate because that's all other people have been doing. And there's been so much that other people have talked on tv. people have come forward and said things that make no sense. It's just sad what some people say.

Reporter: But I mean you're from the island. You know how things work there. You're not like some guy that's a tourist who doesn't know what's going on.

Joran van der Sloot: That's why. In the beginning I thought that she probably ran away with somebody on the island. She ran away with a beach bum, I don't know. Someone on the island that she might have met before. That was my first reaction.

Reporter: I've heard things like an international hit squad.

Joran van der Sloot: I don't know. That's probably all speculation too. I've heard stories that she was in Venezuela, sold into sex slavery. I don't know. people are just trying to make up stories to find out what happened. It's all so sad.

Reporter: But you're the last guy that was seen with her.

Joran van der Sloot: No, I was the last guy who admitted to being with her, but, OK.

Reporter: OK. What is the worst thing you think you have done since this all started?

Joran van der Sloot: The worst thing I did was leaving her there at the beach. That is the worst thing, possible thing, I could've done and then lie about it to try and make myself not look bad I guess.

Reporter: How attractive did you think she was? 

Joran van der Sloot: I thought that she was attractive.

Reporter: What kind of feelings did you have for her?

Joran van der Sloot: I didn't have any feelings for her, because I didn't know her at all. I just, the feelings I had for her were because she was attractive.

Reporter: You were hot for her.. you mean.

Joran van der Sloot: I wouldn't say that. I just thought she was attractive. I thought she was very outgoing  and that she came to me, she was the one who talked to me.  She asked for me to dance with her, which I didn't even do and she wanted to come with us. And It was probably a bad choice. We should've told her to get out of the car when her friend told her to get out of the car. And then you never know what would've happened.

Voice over: Since the last lead that legal authorities had to go on was that Joran and the Kalpoe Brothers were the last known people to have seen Natalee before she went missing, these suspects needed to be questioned closely.

Back to reporter and Joran van der Sloot:

Reporter: What were the interrogations like?

Joran van der Sloot: The interrogations of course were horrible because they put stuff in your head. I think if you have a weak person in the interrogation room even if they're innocent they'll admit to doing a crime just to be left alone. Just so they can leave them alone to get something to eat, something to drink. The Aruban interrogators might've been a little kinder than the Dutch, because they really try and make you look guilty, even if you're not guilty.

Reporter: And how long did this go on for?

Joran van der Sloot: Well, in the beginning the interrogations could go on from 8 in the morning till 11 o'clock at night, but at the end they slowly became less and less, because they didn't have any more things to ask. And I don't see there's anything else to ask here. I haven't been interrogated in Holland, no one has come to interrogate me and I know it's because there's nothing else to ask. Every question I have answered. There's no evidence in this case that shows something bad happened.

There's not one girl that has come forward and said otherwise. I only have good declarations in my name.

Harris voice over: Those interrogations happened because under Dutch law a suspect can be held in jail without being formally charged, merely on suspicion.

Joran van der Sloot: The three months I was in KIA was hard. It wasn't fun at all, of course. I tried to make the best of it. I also knew that I was innocent, so I knew they had to let me go.

Reporter: You know, some people say that, um, I mean, you are, <big sigh>. You know you are admitting that your lying, but some people are saying that you are doing quite a lot more than that. You're doing, you know, you've done worse than that.

Joran van der Sloot: And that is... that would be?

I'd love for someone to come and tell me that there's anything worse I did, because I've never touched a girl in an aggressive way in my life. Not Never. And there's no one that can come forward and say otherwise. 

And yeah, I just feel bad because everything that happened. I feel bad for Natalee's family. I feel bad for my family. I feel bad for Deepak and Satish's family. And I feel bad for everyone that's suffered because of all this.

back to studio, Tim Green and the reporter/producer.

Tim Green: Wow, thanks Jerry. Great interview.

Reporter: Thank you, Tim.
 

Tim Green: The Van der Sloot interview will continue in tomorrow's show. We'll see how Natalee Holloway's mom reacts to what he had to say.

Tim Green: Welcome back to "A Current Affair". Our Harris Faulkner is with us now. Harris spent most of yesterday screening the Van der Sloot tape for Natalee Holloway's mom, Beth.  How'd that go Harris?

Harris: Well, Tim you know I have been covering this since May 30th, when Natalee Holloway first vanished.  I spent 26 days on the island of Aruba. And the missing piece of the puzzle has always been words from Joran van der Sloot.  We wanted to give Beth Holloway Twitty, Natalee's mother, a chance to view the tape before it aired. Beth's anger, tears, seething frustration with the Aruban and Dutch governments bubbled up, giving us a true look at the mother of Natalee Holloway, unplugged. Here's a preview.

Play tape of Joran
Joran van der Sloot: I don't have anything to say to Beth. Not  one thing at all. Because,  look at what she's doing to a beautiful island with a hundred thousand people on it that rely on tourism. And she's boycotting an island that could have consequences for a hundred thousand people, which for me makes no sense at all.

.Back to Beth

Harris: I've never heard you call for a boycott.

Beth Twitty: I've never called for a boycott, but I am... I am... I am  pleaing [sic] with people to please consider not traveling to Aruba and Dutch.. other Dutch territories until Natalee is returned to me.

Harris: Beth says people should watch out for an island where young women disappear. And then we watch Joran's description of Natalee, the night they partied.

Joran van der Sloot: We even stopped on the way outside of Carlos 'n Charlies... we stopped, she said that one of her friends yelled to her ger to get out of the car. And she wanted to stay in the car. Deepak even stopped and allowed her if she wanted to get out.  She said "No". And she stayed with us in the car. It was totally her choice.

Beth Twitty: But, now when Natalee is being led out of Carlos 'n Charlies by the arm, by Deepak Kalpoe, what state of mind's she in? She is not thinking clearly. She does not have the ability to make those decisions. And even Deepak, he even she was too drunk to drive. I mean, its ...it's all a lie.

Harris: Beth says the other big lie is Joran saying he never had sex with Natalee. 

video clip of Joran plays..

Joran:  Not me, not Deepak or Satish had sex with her. And that's in all the documents.  That's... and none of us ever said anything like that.

Harris: Later in the interview, Beth drops bombshell details about what she calls sexual assaults against her daughter, she claims Joran confessed to in police statements she was shown.   She told me she knows when the details come out some people may choose to judge Natalee, but Beth is confident the truth will unveil who harmed her daughter and what they did with her.

From Preview:
Harris:   Beth, I have to ask this question. And it's a difficult one. What is the possibility that maybe you didn't really know your daughter as well as you think you did?

(Beth Twitty cries and shakes head from side to side)

Harris: Beth does answer the tough questions brought on by Joran van der Sloot's details of the final night with Natalee Holloway tomorrow on A Current Affair. And you know what? She shocks us. With a lot of new information in the case she was never allowed to talk about before. Pointing to the descriptions from police statements she says she was shown about alleged sexual assaults on her daughter. Very graphic, tough stuff  to talk about. Watch for the rest of our interview tomorrow on A Current Affair..  And, Tim, I just have to tell you, Tim, you have to wait until you hear what Beth is planning to do next in this case.

End of transcript
On the Dan Abrams show on MSNBC

A video clip was evidently shown to someone which had obviously been provided by the Current Affair interview, but we didn't have that here in our transcript of  the first installment. Maybe we just missed it.  If not, then perhaps this will be in the second show.  Abrams quoted from the interview which he evidently saw.

Abrams: Joran says,  "Obviously she was drunk. I had stuff to drink, too..She wanted to go with me. I wanted to go with her. It was totally consensual.  It was Natalee that asked me to go out with her."

From the ABC Good Morning America page:

Obviously, she was drunk. I had stuff to drink too," van der Sloot said. "She wanted to go with me. I wanted to go with her. It was totally consensual. I had something to drink and she had something to drink, and I just don't think it's fair."


Addtional clips from A Current Affair (broadcast Sept 27, 2005)

Joran van der Sloot: Well, obviously, she was drunk. I had stuff to drink too. But now that I don‘t respect that the Aruban authorities pinned it that it was a rape case. She wanted to go with me. I wanted to go with her. It was totally consensual. I had something to drink. She had something to drink. 

Joran van der Sloot:  There is not one tiny hint of evidence that points to us. They even tested my DNA and Satish's and Deepak's DNA against the judge's order, and they found out it was not our DNA that was on Natalee's toothbrush. And I'd like to know whose DNA that was.



Reporter: Well, I think if you can explain to people what really happened and you were really forthcoming, the more forthcoming you are, the more chance there is of you to get on with your life.

Joran van der Sloot: One day I will explain exactly what happened. But right now I don‘t feel ready to do that. 



Joran van der Sloot:  All of us lied. We agreed to lie. And I was the first one that changed my story.

Joran van der Sloot:  I told the truth. I know she knows the truth and I know she read most of the statements in the case. And yes, that's all.

(some of the foregoing are totally out of context) 
They were provided on various shows as snippets, but where they go in the interview is unknown.



Harris Faulkner:  But what about the FBI? Because just recently the prime minister said come on in, FBI, join the investigation.

Beth Twitty: Well you know, that's where the whole thing has been, the entire summer has been a lie.

Harris Faulkner:  Are you trying to tell me that the FBI...

Beth Twitty: Never.

Harris Faulkner:  What do you mean never?

Beth Twitty: The FBI never received a single document in the investigation. Audio or videotaped evidence.

Voice over: Beth says that the FBI told her that when a Dutch official arrived at Quantico for the express purpose of sharing documents, no papers or tapes were ever turned over to the Americans. Nothing.

Harris Faulkner: How do you know this?

Beth Twitty: The FBI told me that there never were, they never released the documents, the audio or video tape evidence to them.



Beth viewing video:

Joran van der Sloot on tape: There is not one tiny hint of evidence that points to us. They even tested my DNA and Satish's and Deepak's DNA against the judge's order, and they found out it was not our DNA that was on Natalee's toothbrush. And I'd llike to know whose DNA that was.

Beth Twitty: That wasn't even Natalee's toothbrush! I don't even know how they got, how that got, how that got up in it. The toothbrush doesn't even count!

Harris Faulkner: Well, I...

Beth Twitty: That was her room mate's tooth brush and anyway, it, it, its wasn't even, it was...


In addition, there was a second "A Current Affair " broadcast with more of Beth's reaction: Second Current Affair show


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